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From:  Glynn Foster <Glynn.Foster-UdXhSnd/wVw-AT-public.gmane.org>
To:  Open Solaris <opensolaris-discuss-xZgeD5Kw2fzokhkdeNNY6A-AT-public.gmane.org>, OpenSolaris Announce <opensolaris-announce-xZgeD5Kw2fzokhkdeNNY6A-AT-public.gmane.org>, Indiana Discuss <indiana-discuss-xZgeD5Kw2fzokhkdeNNY6A-AT-public.gmane.org>, advocacy-discuss-AT-op
Subject:  [indiana-discuss] Project Indiana milestone reached!
Date:  Thu, 01 Nov 2007 16:32:34 +1300
Message-ID:  <472948D2.3090205@sun.com>
Archive-link:  Article, Thread


I'm very pleased to announce that the first milestone of Project Indiana is now
available - called OpenSolaris Developer Preview.

It's available for download at

  http://dlc.sun.com/osol/indiana/downloads/current/in-prev...

This is an x86-based LiveCD install image, containing some new and emerging
OpenSolaris technologies. This may result in instabilities that lead to system
panics or data corruption.

Among the features contained in this release are

  o Single CD download, with LiveCD 'try before you install' capabilities

  o Caiman installer, with significantly improved installation experience

  o ZFS as the default filesystem

  o Image packaging system, with capabilities to pull packages from
    network repositories

  o GNU utilities in the default $PATH

  o bash as the default shell

  o GNOME 2.20 desktop environment

For more details about the system requirements along with some basic user
documentation, see -

  http://opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/resources/getit/

and the release notes

  http://opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/resources/rn/

This milestone preview shows the results of many months of engineering work
through the collaboration of several projects on opensolaris.org. I would like
to thank to those people who have been involved, and offer my congratulations
for reaching this successful milestone.

Report Bugs
===========
We are very interested in hearing feedback about your experiences with this
release. In particular, if you have issues installing on your hardware we would
love to know.

If you would like to provide feedback, see our bug reporting page for details on
how to do that -

  http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/resources/r...


About Project Indiana
=====================
Project Indiana is working towards creating a binary distribution of an
operating system built out of the OpenSolaris source code. The distribution is a
point of integration for several current projects on OpenSolaris.org, including
those to make the installation experience easier, to modernize the look and feel
of OpenSolaris on the desktop, and to introduce a network-based package
management system into Solaris.

http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/


Rock on!

Glynn
On behalf of Project Indiana Team


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The OpenSolaris Developer Preview

Posted Nov 1, 2007 17:09 UTC (Thu) by ajross (subscriber, #4563) [Link]

The license mismatch is clearly a problem.  Although as long as the GPL distributables are
available from Sun separately (and I believe they all are, right?) then a reasonable
interpretation is that the "OBL" applies only to the non-GPL components and that the GPL
applies normally.

This seems like more of a accounting error (putting the license in the wrong place) than a
license violation.

The flamewar

Posted Nov 1, 2007 17:27 UTC (Thu) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]

(you didn't think I'd talk about the actual OS, did you? I've got to see if it runs on any of
my hardware before I can do that...)

What a pointless flamewar. Half of it is more like an unstructured game of Nomic than a
flamewar, actually, arguing about the methods one should use in order to begin the process of
determining whether or not an OpenSolaris distro should be allowed to be called `OpenSolaris'
and whether it is a Sun or a community project. In the middle of that Brian Gupta spends some
time tossing around conspiracy theories about Ian Murdock's malign intent to destroy
OpenSolaris by, um, releasing a distro called 'OpenSolaris'. Truly earth-stilling stuff.


Joerg's having a whole bundle of fun in there, of course, whipping up the flames: Indiana will
fail because nobody cooperated with *his* distribution; Indiana hackers must prove a totally
insignificant negative (that naming Indiana `OpenSolaris' will not harm other distros in any
way); Indiana will fail because some of Joerg's suggestions are not accepted without demurral;
Schillix is the One True OpenSolaris; Sun didn't help with SchilliX out of pique (Joerg is
apparently not helping with Indiana because they don't agree to use only his build system and
drop all others)...

As usual he's got the occasional reasonable point in there, but it's surrounded with so much
incredibly undiplomatic complaining that only a saint would plough through it to answer those
points.

It's odd how Joerg is trying to simultaneously piss off the Linux developer community by
appearing to be a raging Solaris fanboy incapable of working with anyone else, *and* to piss
off the OpenSolaris developer community by doing exactly the same thing. I'd have thought that
if there were one group he *could* get on with, it would be Sun, but no, the same old debating
tactics (argument by assertion, argument by reiteration, conspiracy theories, et seq) we're so
wearily familiar with get used against Sun as well.

 -- N., finding this a fascinating study of abnormal mass psychology, almost as good as
debian-devel

The flamewar

Posted Nov 1, 2007 22:09 UTC (Thu) by drag (subscriber, #31333) [Link]

Probably he was a Solaris fanboy because he had a fantasy about how it was managed and how
work on the OS was done. 

Since it was closed there was nothing to prove him wrong and it was probably flatering on the
Solaris folks so Sun didn't do anything to prove him wrong.

So he busily went around trying to inflict his fantasies on how a 'real' Unix OS is developed
on the Linux folks. 

Now that a 'real' Unix OS is out there and open for him to hack on he isn't letting his
delusions die and is trying to now inflict his fantasies on the OpenSolaris folks. 

Er.. Something like that.


Still, the idea of releasing 'OpenSolaris Preview' under a closed source license was a
shitasticly bad idea.

The OpenSolaris Developer Preview

Posted Nov 2, 2007 4:16 UTC (Fri) by zooko (subscriber, #2589) [Link]

By sheerest coincidence, Sam Hocevar, Debian project leader, e-mailed the Nexenta folks today
to suggest new improved cooperation between Debian and Nexenta.

I love this chaotic ecosystem.  No matter how many bad moves Sun can make, they have formed a
live bidirectional conduit into the ecosystem by releasing Solaris under a Free Software
licence.

I'm excited about the future!

Regards,

Zooko

The OpenSolaris Developer Preview

Posted Nov 2, 2007 15:44 UTC (Fri) by mheily (subscriber, #27123) [Link]

I'm writing this comment from a machine running the OpenSolaris LiveCD.

bash-3.2$ uname -a
SunOS opensolaris 5.11 snv_75 i86pc i386 i86pc Solaris

The machine is an AMD Athlon64 3000 with an MSI motherboard that has built-in Nvidia graphics
and networking. The built-in audio is an AC97 RealTek chip (I think).

Amazingly, everything works with no hassle. Networking was auto-configured, Xorg runs, Gnome
looks normal, sound is working. I am very impressed with the quality of this LiveCD, for being
a beta-quality release.

There are some differences between the names of commands used in GNU and those used in
OpenSolaris. For example, there is no top(1) command but Solaris provides a prstat(1) command
that does the same thing. Instead of lsmod(1) there is modinfo(1M).

It's free! Try it! 

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