Hardy Heron open for uploads [LWN.net]

Hardy Heron open for uploads

Posted Oct 26, 2007 8:34 UTC (Fri) by tajyrink (subscriber, #2750)
In reply to: Hardy Heron open for uploads by rrdharan
Parent article: Hardy Heron open for uploads

It looks like most people experiencing problems are using closed source drivers that generally
always suck especially with ATI, and the other report dates back to Ubuntu 7.04 with
relatively little content after gutsy release - some Mobility Radeons seem to have problems,
or the motherboard chipsets used.

The biggest problem I think is that thanks to those who want closed drivers and for which the
Restricted Manager has been done, closed drivers are suggested upon first boot-up for
supported graphics chipsets. In the case of fglrx, it's really not a good idea since you get
less 3D with Radeon 9500 - X800 than what you get with the open source drivers, from the user
perspective, since you cannot enable Compiz.

As for upgrades, I had initially problems with 6.06 -> 6.10 but otherwise it has worked
fluently, as long as I don't upgrade before the release (the upgrade bugs are supposed to be
solved for the release, not before it) and as long as I haven't used any Automatix or such
scripts which mess up the computer badly. Generally from viewing community discussion I've
observed that 7.04 -> 7.10 has gone pretty darn well, except for the big, worrysome problems
with Kubuntu updater, alas.

Most failures to upgrade have come down to trying to upgrade with apt-get dist-upgrade without
knowing how to actually resolve problems, or using third party packages that break things.
Handling of latter could always be better, though.

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Hardy Heron open for uploads

Posted Oct 26, 2007 20:49 UTC (Fri) by oak (guest, #2786) [Link]

> Generally from viewing community discussion I've observed that 7.04 -> 
7.10 has gone pretty darn well, except for the big, worrysome problems 
with Kubuntu updater, alas.

Could you post links to this?  Do things work better if one uses the Gnome 
updater with Kubuntu?

Hardy Heron open for uploads

Posted Oct 27, 2007 13:22 UTC (Sat) by tajyrink (subscriber, #2750) [Link]

> Could you post links to this?  Do things work better if one uses the 
> Gnome updater with Kubuntu?

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/...

Apparently indeed using Gnome's update-manager works better if using Kubuntu.

Hardy Heron open for uploads

Posted Oct 29, 2007 13:28 UTC (Mon) by JLCdjinn (guest, #1905) [Link]

I ran into the same problem, but wow, it looks like it could have been a lot worse! In my case, the Kubuntu update manager would successfully get to the end of downloading all the new packages and then the OOM reaper would end its existence. Consistently. Watched with top while it just chewed through memory and then poof, gone. I decided to try the regular Ubuntu update manager (which, amusingly, I had to install first), and it worked just fine; thankfully it used the cache of the packages that had been downloaded already. It gave me a warning about doing a non-standard version upgrade, but I interpreted that to mean that it was updating the Kubuntu package set, not the "expected" Ubuntu package set.