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Ubuntu 7.10 Beta released

From:  Steve Langasek <steve.langasek-AT-ubuntu.com>
To:  ubuntu-announce-AT-lists.ubuntu.com
Subject:  Ubuntu 7.10 Beta released
Date:  Thu, 27 Sep 2007 05:59:10 -0700
Message-ID:  <20070927125910.GA22188@dario.dodds.net>

The Ubuntu team is proud to announce the beta release of Ubuntu 7.10 and its
variants, Kubuntu, Edubuntu and Xubuntu.  Codenamed "Gutsy Gibbon", 7.10
continues Ubuntu's proud tradition of integrating the latest and greatest
open source technologies into a high-quality, easy-to-use Linux
distribution.

Ubuntu 7.10 on the desktop features a cutting-edge graphical experience with
composited desktop effects, fully automated printer installation, and
superior support for Firefox browser plugins.

Ubuntu 7.10 server edition brings enhanced security-in-depth with AppArmor
and easy install-time options for multiple common server configurations.

Desktop highlights
------------------

Compiz Fusion: This innovative compositing window manager enables 3-D
desktop effects that let users work with, and see, their desktops in
completely new ways.

Printer installation: In GNOME, printers are automatically configured for
use as soon as they are connected.

Free Flash support with Gnash: Ubuntu 7.10 leads the pack with a preview of
this Flash browser plugin.  Although still actively in development and not
yet fully supported by Ubuntu, Gnash gives a glimpse into the future of free
Flash, bringing partial Flash support to 64-bit desktop systems.

Automated Firefox plugin installation: Beyond the addition of Gnash, Firefox
in Ubuntu now supports automatic installation of popular plugins through the
standard Ubuntu package repositories, for a richer web-browsing experience
with the integrated security support of the rest of the Ubuntu system.

Please see http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/gutsybeta for details.

Server highlights
-----------------

AppArmor: This easy-to-deploy kernel technology limits the resources an
application is allowed to access and can be used to provide an added layer
of protection against undiscovered security vulnerabilities in applications.

Pre-configured installation options: Mail Server, Print Server, Database
Server, and File Server options join existing LAMP and DNS options for
pre-configured installations, easing the deployment of common server
configurations.

Edubuntu highlights
-------------------

Faster thin clients: Thin clients have been sped up significantly through
the use of compressed images.

Kubuntu highlights
------------------

As well as the above desktop highlights, the following new features are
specific to KDE users:

Dolphin file manager: This updated file manager gives Ubuntu users a glimpse
of the upcoming KDE 4.

Strigi desktop search: Another pillar of KDE 4 available now in Kubuntu.

Restricted-manager: Kubuntu 7.10 includes a KDE front-end for easy
installation of proprietary drivers, complementing the existing GNOME
front-end.

Please see https://wiki.kubuntu.org/GutsyGibbon/Beta/Kubuntu for details.

Other
-----

* On the Desktop: KDE 3.5.7, GNOME 2.20, OpenOffice.org 2.3.0rc1, X.org 7.2

* On the Server: Apache 2.2, PostgreSQL 8.2, PHP 5.2.3, LTSP 5.0

* "Under the hood": GCC 4.1.2, glibc 2.6, Linux 2.6.22, Python 2.5

The full release notes can be found at
http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/gutsybeta

About Ubuntu
------------

Ubuntu is a Linux distribution for your desktop, laptop, thin client and
server, with a fast and easy install.  Ubuntu comes in several variants,
including Ubuntu Desktop, Server, Kubuntu, Edubuntu and Xubuntu.  The Ubuntu
project makes no separation between our free edition and our enterprise
edition - this is our best work and it is freely available.

Used by businesses, home users, schools and governments around the world,
Ubuntu offers regular releases, a tight selection of excellent packages
installed by default and professional commercial technical support from
Canonical Ltd and hundreds of other companies.

To Get Ubuntu 7.10 Beta
-----------------------

Download Ubuntu 7.10 Beta here (choose the mirror closest to you):

  Europe:

    http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/7.10 (Sweden)
    http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com/7.10 (The Netherlands)
    http://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/linux/ubuntu-releases/7.10 (The Netherlands)
    http://ie.releases.ubuntu.com/7.10 (Ireland)
    http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/7.10 (Italy)
    http://gb.releases.ubuntu.com/7.10 (Great Britain)
    http://de.releases.ubuntu.com/7.10 (Germany)
    http://fr.releases.ubuntu.com/7.10 (France)

  Asia:

    http://tw.releases.ubuntu.com/7.10 (Taiwan)

  Africa:

    http://za.releases.ubuntu.com/7.10 (South Africa)

  North America:

    http://ca.releases.ubuntu.com/7.10 (Canada)
    http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/7.10 (United States)

  Rest of the world:

    http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10 (Great Britain)

Please download using Bittorrent if possible.

To upgrade from Ubuntu 7.04 to Ubuntu 7.10 Beta, follow these
instructions:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades

The final version of Ubuntu 7.10 is expected to be released in October 2007.

Feedback and Helping
--------------------

If you would like to help shape Ubuntu, take a look at the list of ways you
can participate at

  http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate/

Your comments, bug reports, patches and suggestions will help turn this Beta
into the best release of Ubuntu ever.  Please report bugs through the
Launchpad bug tracker:

  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+bugs

If you have a question, or if you think you may have found a bug but are not
sure, first try asking on the #ubuntu IRC channel on FreeNode, on the Ubuntu
Users mailing list, or on the Ubuntu forums:

  http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users
  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/

More Information
----------------

You can find out more about Ubuntu and about this preview release on our
website, IRC channel and wiki. If you are new to Ubuntu, please visit:

  http://www.ubuntu.com/

To sign up for future Ubuntu announcements, please subscribe to Ubuntu's
very low volume announcement list at:

  http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-announce

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Ubuntu 7.10 Beta released

Posted Sep 27, 2007 17:19 UTC (Thu) by mbottrell (guest, #43008) [Link]

Commenced running Gutsy last week (knowing the beta was out late this week).

Besides a few 'interesting' bugs, it's been stable. (Currently hitting the logout menu/button hangs my X session.. and have to revert to Control-BS-Del)..not a big issue, but one I hope is fixed shortly.

The latest Gnome/OpenOffice is worthy of the upgrade in itself. :)

Ubuntu 7.10 Beta released

Posted Sep 27, 2007 18:12 UTC (Thu) by moxfyre (guest, #13847) [Link]

I've been the pre-release Gutsy for about 2 months, and have a few issues:
* Suspend-to-RAM works... but claims that it didn't work. And so it never brings up the password challenge after a resume.
* Gutsy doesn't automount USB devices, although it worked fine under Feisty
* DPMS doesn't work, so the monitor never powers itself off. "xset dpms force off" from the command line does nothing. This also worked fine under Feisty.

Other than these annoyances, the application improvements are great:
* Evolution has new mail notification with the tray icon, very handy
* GNOME has improved keyring support, for caching SSH logins and GPG keys
* The latest version of BMPx has really excellent Last.FM support (it's my new favorite media player :-))
* Some nice improvements to OpenOffice as well
* Totem and other gstreamer applications can automatically download codecs that you need (really cool, not quite ironed out yet)
* Firefox can automatically download extensions that have been packaged specifically for Ubuntu (ditto)

So once the kernel/HAL bugs get ironed out, Gutsy will be darn close to perfect.

Ubuntu 7.10 Beta released

Posted Sep 27, 2007 19:37 UTC (Thu) by zooko (subscriber, #2589) [Link]

Are those three bugs already reported to the Ubuntu bug-tracker?

Ubuntu 7.10 Beta released

Posted Sep 28, 2007 2:50 UTC (Fri) by kjp (subscriber, #39639) [Link]

I updated to gutsy a few days ago as well. I had what could be the same problem with the logout hanging - it would freeze hard for a minute and then show the dialog without the power/hibernate buttons, so I re-enabled gnome-power-manager for my session (which I had disabled thinking I didn't need it) and that fixed the problem.

Printing is better, scanner doesn't grind or freeze (USB Suspend in feisty - UGH), gimp 2.4 rocks, and the glossy theme is gorgeous. rock on.

Ubuntu 7.10 Beta released

Posted Sep 27, 2007 18:07 UTC (Thu) by muwlgr (guest, #35359) [Link]

AppArmor, heh.
SELinux happened to be a hard nut to crack for Debian/Ubuntu ... :>

AppArmor

Posted Sep 27, 2007 19:22 UTC (Thu) by rfunk (subscriber, #4054) [Link]

I thought that was interesting too.

However: apt-get install selinux-basics selinux-doc selinux-policy-default

Ubuntu 7.10 Beta released

Posted Sep 27, 2007 20:55 UTC (Thu) by dlang (subscriber, #313) [Link]

I'm glad to see this spread from SuSE

it's not just a question of if the distro can configure the security, but if the sysadmins and local security people have a fighting chance of implementing security for non-standard programs.

Ubuntu 7.10 Beta released

Posted Sep 27, 2007 21:28 UTC (Thu) by briangmaddox (subscriber, #39279) [Link]

Exactly. A lot of people end up turning off SELinux simply because they don't have the time to learn how to use it properly. I'd say going to AppArmor makes more sense since an admin is probably more likely to deploy it being that the learning curve is lower. And as a previous poster said, you can always install it if you want it.

We now return you to "poke at distros you don't like" ;)

Ubuntu 7.10 Beta released

Posted Sep 28, 2007 9:41 UTC (Fri) by yodermk (subscriber, #3803) [Link]

Actually, SELinux is dang nice in RHEL/CentOS 5. Big ease of use improvement via setroubleshootd and its GUI front end. If you're doing relatively normal things with the services, it's not hard at all.

Ubuntu 7.10 Beta released

Posted Sep 28, 2007 10:41 UTC (Fri) by dlang (subscriber, #313) [Link]

the key to your statement is the phrase "If you're doing relatively normal things with the services"

it's exactly when you aren't doing normal things that you are most likely to need to tinker with the security settings.

this could be that you are needing the programs to do unusual things (compiling a custom version of apache that pulls virtual host info from a database for example), or it could be that you have a very limited install and you want to make sure that this particular installation _doesn't_ do a bunch of things that the distro version is normally allowed to do

in either case you need to adjust the security settings.

And all such changes can compromise security

Posted Sep 28, 2007 14:34 UTC (Fri) by khim (subscriber, #9252) [Link]

If you plan to install something custom-made in non-standard configuration - you always must do it knowingly. It can introduce suble security holes - with SELinux/AppArmor or without. And if you can not even manage to tame SELinux (which is hard but not that hard) - how can you be sure you've done everything correctly ?

And all such changes can compromise security

Posted Sep 28, 2007 15:56 UTC (Fri) by dlang (subscriber, #313) [Link]

the SELinux developers disagree with you. they say that SELinux configuration is not to be done by mere mortals, only by security professionals (and apparently those with more security and linux experience then I have, I've only been doing security with linux as my full time job for 10 years)

if and when the SELinux config tools are developed so that the person working to add one program doesn't need to fully understand the entire system policy to figure out all the possible interactions this may change, but those tools have not been developed yet, in spite of the fact that their need has been obvious for many years

And all such changes can compromise security

Posted Sep 28, 2007 23:07 UTC (Fri) by kornak (guest, #17589) [Link]

Forgive my skepticism, but I tend to believe your statements have less to do
with SELINUX and more due to your prejudices against Redhat and for Ubuntu.
SELINUX is "NOT" that hard. There are many command line as well as GUI tools
available to you to make the necessary changes. I find these criticisms
rather disingenuous and without merit. If indeed you have any level of UNIX
level experience, SELINUX is not insurmountable. The benefits far outweigh
the effort.

And all such changes can compromise security

Posted Sep 28, 2007 23:19 UTC (Fri) by dlang (subscriber, #313) [Link]

I am responding to the concepts you need to deal with to configure SELinux, according to the SELinux developers, along with the fact that the SELinux developers say that there are no tools to make this easier (but at the same time, they say there's no reason to have any other security model, the other people should just write a config tool for SELinux instead)

I have never tried SELinux on RedHat, so while I dislike RedHat for other reasons my dislike for SELinux is completely seperate for my dislike of RedHat

Ubuntu 7.10 Beta released

Posted Sep 28, 2007 18:32 UTC (Fri) by maks (subscriber, #32426) [Link]

> I'm glad to see this spread from SuSE

I'd rephrase that: Ubuntu going down by gobbing this Suse crap.

Ubuntu 7.10 Beta released

Posted Sep 28, 2007 8:51 UTC (Fri) by pivot (guest, #588) [Link]

Mouse motion is much less smooth after upgrading. I was using Xgl before upgrading, this seems to not be necessary anymore (ATI fglrx drivers).

Ubuntu 7.10 Beta released

Posted Oct 2, 2007 8:01 UTC (Tue) by slat (guest, #7147) [Link]

Installed it on my worklaptop, since i needed to keep the (supported) ntfs partition i tested the built-in (gparted) ntfs resizing in the installation process - worked great!
wobbly-windows with my intel graphicsdriver worked aswell - this was a nice installation!

Definitely a beta

Posted Oct 5, 2007 22:07 UTC (Fri) by alspnost (subscriber, #2763) [Link]

This one has been pretty flakey for me (64-bit version). I've had lots of apps crashing, various package manager breakages, and some odd bugs that definitely weren't there in Feisty. For one thing, memory usage is dramatically higher - Firefox, and possibly GNOME, seem to be leaking like sieves.

But it certainly looks nice, and there's a massive amount of package churn (150 updates/day), so I'm sure most of the kinks will get worked out by release time. Here's hoping for a landmark release....

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