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Microsoft Open XML standards vote foments politics, dismay (News.com)
News.com has an overview of the
voting process for fast-tracking Microsoft's ISO application for its
Open XML file formats. "'It's clear
that whatever the vote, OOXML will not be a JTC1 standard for a long, long
time, no matter what people say next week. It's also clear that unless the
process is quickly terminated with OOXML being rejected as unsuitable with
comments unresolvable, it will churn on and on and on, no matter what you
feel about it or the OOXML spec,' Bob Sutor, IBM's vice president of open
source and standards and a vocal Microsoft critic, wrote this week in his blog."
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Microsoft Open XML standards vote foments politics, dismay (News.com) Posted Sep 3, 2007 15:49 UTC (Mon) by chel (guest, #11544) [Link] Microsoft's director of corporate standards, Jason Matusow, acknowledged improper activity in the case of Sweden's vote, where a Microsoft employee sent an e-mail to two Swedish voters and enticed them to vote for Open XML in exchange for marketing support.IMHO the voting process should be stopped and the standard rejected. A new voting process should only start after a full investigation. Otherwise ISO will loose its credibility. One should not get or try to get ISO standards by buying votes.
Microsoft Open XML standards vote foments politics, dismay (News.com) Posted Sep 3, 2007 18:22 UTC (Mon) by ncm (subscriber, #165) [Link] The good news is that MS is very, very worried about this. That means if they lose, and assuming they have analyzed things correctly, it will really cut their revenue stream. We all pay MS a tax via all the companies webuy from who can't seem to avoid paying MS directly. The more of them who find ways not to pay MS, the less you and I end up paying them.
Microsoft Open XML standards vote foments politics, dismay (News.com) Posted Sep 3, 2007 19:20 UTC (Mon) by AJWM (subscriber, #15888) [Link] It's interesting how Microsoft's involvement in this is steadily de-escalating with each repetition of the story.
The first few times I heard it, it was a Microsoft (Sweden) manager who sent the email to a couple of dozen Microsoft partners with thinly veiled promises of special deals or additional marketing support in exchange for their signing up and voting.
Now it's down to an "employee" (true, but doesn't sound as bad as manager) sending email to just two Swedish partners.
I don't know what the truth is, but I find the phenomenon interesting. Two months from now I daresay that Microsoft won't (according to any stories then) have been involved in any voting pressure shenanigans in any countries at all. (No doubt thanks in part to Microsoft's Ministry of Truth, er, PR department).
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