Interview with OpenVZ Project Manager Kir Kolyshkin (MontanaLinux.org) [LWN.net]

Interview with OpenVZ Project Manager Kir Kolyshkin (MontanaLinux.org)

Posted Aug 28, 2007 4:34 UTC (Tue) by bronson (subscriber, #4806)
In reply to: Interview with OpenVZ Project Manager Kir Kolyshkin (MontanaLinux.org) by dowdle
Parent article: Interview with OpenVZ Project Manager Kir Kolyshkin (MontanaLinux.org)

And Linux-VServer gets even less coverage than OpenVZ. It's weird!

Both projects are supremely useful and containerization is a fantastic idea. Give it a year or three... I expect the publicity will catch up.

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vserver/OpenVZ: always next year, next year...

Posted Aug 28, 2007 7:50 UTC (Tue) by sladen (guest, #27402) [Link]

"Next year" will always be the year when the publicity comes—I have five year old production vserver boxes (other people for longer). vserver got its syscall number in 2003 and the great publicity bubble day still doesn't seem to have come...

OpenVZ deserve congratulation, the project has appeared much more recently and has been alot more efficient at drumming up coverage (a good conference circuit and very regular press releases have done wonders).

Age of OpenVZ

Posted Aug 28, 2007 14:42 UTC (Tue) by dowdle (subscriber, #659) [Link]

Just to clarify, while OpenVZ only appeared about a year an a half ago... it has existed as the kernel and underlying command line tools for SWsoft's Virtozzo for over six years.

I'm not sure which is older, Virtuozzo (OpenVZ) or Linux-Vserver... but I'm glad both are mature.

OpenVZ and VServer, practical view

Posted Aug 28, 2007 9:03 UTC (Tue) by gvy (guest, #11981) [Link]

Ugh, trust me, VServer isn't exactly "supremely useful" -- it won't cross your way for the most time but it won't advance you considerably either. At least when you've already had a longer look at OpenVZ.

I've used to run 1.x and 2.4, i586 and x86_64, but moving off to ovz is just so much better. This one does have its troubles (most notable ones for us were around NFS) but these are being taken on and solved, and if you don't happen to run into something really obscure (as they say frequently a bug in kernel proper which didn't manifest in usual circumstances), ovz is clearly better due to its UBC, online quotas and thus far better isolation and provisioning abilities.

As a friend of mine would put such situations, "it's a different kind of sports". Still lightweight one though.

If you want to test the waters without messing with kernels, utilities and so forth, ALT Linux 4.0 Server comes with OpenVZ-enabled kernel, utilities, and web-based container creation/administration tools as well (ML here).

OpenVZ forums being linked to corresponding mailing lists are also robust aides.

Linux-Vserver

Posted Aug 28, 2007 14:39 UTC (Tue) by dowdle (subscriber, #659) [Link]

I totally agree with you about Linux-Vserver... it too is greatly under rated. I must admit though that I really haven't been keeping up with Linux-Vserver development... so I'm not familiar with the status of it. I do have one "legacy" system running Linux-Vserver and three VPSes. It has been rock solid stable and fast. It just doesn't have all of the features of OpenVZ but it is close.