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Mandrake Linux 9.1 RC2 is available

From:  Gael Duval <gduval@mandrakesoft.com>
To:  lwn@lwn.net
Subject:  Mandrake Linux 9.1 RC2 is available for download and testing.
Date:  Tue, 04 Mar 2003 21:48:06 +0100

The last release candidate before Mandrake 9.1 final is available for 
download and testing.

Release notes:

# The new Mandrake theme "MandrakeGalaxy" is now available by default 
under GNOME & KDE
http://images.mandrakesoft.com/img/misc/rc2-s.png

# Many bugfixes

# A full list of the packages (3 ISO images) is available at:
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/9.1-rc2.cd

# The changelog between RC1 and RC2 is available at:
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/Changelog-9.1rc1-9.1rc2

A list of FTP mirrors is available at:
http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/ftp.php3

Remaining bugs can be reported to BugZilla:
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/

MandrakeSoft thanks all people who tracked bugs and helped fixing them.


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Mandrake Linux 9.1 RC2 is available

Posted Mar 4, 2003 22:17 UTC (Tue) by proski (subscriber, #104) [Link]

The Galaxy theme with yellow stars scattered on blue background looks cheap and unprofessional. I believe that most users want a desktop that doesn't distract them from what they are doing, not a desktop that promotes Mandrake's trade dress. This theme is good for advertizing materials, but I cannot imagine myself using anything like that for a long time (yes, I do use X Window System).

Disclaimmer - I'm not a GUI expert.

As a side note, the package list looks really good. All the software I care about is represented by the latest versions.

Mandrake Linux 9.1 RC2 is available

Posted Mar 5, 2003 5:20 UTC (Wed) by Peter (guest, #1127) [Link]

I believe that most users want a desktop that doesn't distract them from what they are doing, not a desktop that promotes Mandrake's trade dress.

I haven't seen the Mandrake Galaxy theme, but I imagine it's similar in spirit to those desktop backgrounds that come with Windows OEM installs. (Actually, come to think of it, even non-OEM Windows comes with a logo background and a logo screensaver.) Compaq's, as I recall, is particularly obnoxious.

I guess Mandrake finds itself in the same position as the beige box hardware vendors: they're all selling basically the same product (and the same software) and look for any brand identification / differentiation they can get. Not that that makes a Mandrake-branded theme any less kitschy, of course.

The Galaxy theme

Posted Mar 5, 2003 8:09 UTC (Wed) by Duncan (guest, #6647) [Link]

I must say I haven't seen it either, because altho I URPMI update from cooker
sources quite regularly, I have my own non-default preferences set up, and quite
rightly, they are retained. Maybe I'll have to set up a new user from the defaults,
here, one of these days, just to see what they are now days...

Anyway, that aside, from reading the "rpm -q --changelog appX |less" notes, as I
do regularly on packages I'm particularly interested in, when I see URPMI is
updating them, I gather that Galaxy is Mdk's answer to the unified "Blue Curve"
theme RH introduced. At one point, Mdkhad a sort of blue curve of their own,
altho I don't know how deeply they took it. IIRC, I saw it when I logged in via
runlevel 5, KDM, altho I don't use that often (preferring to launch KDE, my
graphical desktop of choice, from my console user login). Anyway, the purpose of
the Galaxy theme, as with RH's blue curve, is to give KDE and GTK/Gnome
based apps the same general visual style, at least.

Hopefully, they did it in a way that isn't as mangling of KDE as RH's blue curve
was supposed to have been. However, altho I never experienced that either,
RH's blue curve, from comments I read, affected functionality as well, while it
doesn't appear Galaxy goes that far, as that would presumably go beyond
changable themes and kill the functionality with other themes applied as well, and
I don't see that happening. IMO, that's a GOOD thing.

(If I'm wrong and blue curve didn't negatively affect KDE functionality, then
someone please correct me. I'm just going off the comments I saw posted about
it.)

Mandrake Linux 9.1 RC2 is available

Posted Mar 5, 2003 5:31 UTC (Wed) by eyal (subscriber, #949) [Link]

C'mon guys, it's just a theme... which the user can change to anything he likes.

And anyway whether or not it's good looking or not is a matter of personal taste.

EZ

Mandrake Linux 9.1 RC2 is available

Posted Mar 5, 2003 17:11 UTC (Wed) by proski (subscriber, #104) [Link]

I disagree. Mandrake tries to be very user-friendly. That's the distribution one would recommend to new users. And the first look counts, regardless whether the system can be easily customized or not. Unexperienced users may be reluctant (or even afraid) to tweak any parameters.

Red Hat doesn't put a little red hat in every icon. Looking beyond computers, car manufacturers don't put their emblems on every button of CD players. Too much self-promotion can have the opposite effect.

By the way, the link to the screenshot is in the article.

Stars are part of Crystal!

Posted Mar 5, 2003 15:44 UTC (Wed) by ranger (guest, #6415) [Link]

AFAIK, the "yellow" stars you refer to are the "Favorites" icons for Crystal, and not part of Galaxy. Crystal is the default icon theme for KDE3.1, and most people would criticise any distro not using them in their default theme (since they are considered to be quite good, and a lot of work went into them).

The galaxy theme consists of widgets for Qt/GTK+ and window decorations for KDE and metacity.

Mandrake Linux 9.1 RC2 is available

Posted Mar 5, 2003 8:53 UTC (Wed) by oever (subscriber, #987) [Link]

The buttons in the panel should be reconsidered. The button for Konsole is
useless for most novices and advances users can put it there quickly. The
KWrite button is useless for everybody. The configuration button is also best
avoided on such a prominent place: a mistake made by many distributions. The
buttons on the panel should be dead simple, just like the icons on the desktop.

Redhat has done a much better job by putting only buttons for 'email', 'internet',
'text processing' and 'spread sheet', if I recall correctly, all connected to
OpenOffice apps, except for the internet button. Those are the things people
want to use day to day.

Mandrake Linux 9.1 RC2 is available

Posted Mar 5, 2003 22:45 UTC (Wed) by Tar (subscriber, #2456) [Link]

I wonder if they've fixed the KDE Bug 51891: redmond theme maximized shows top/bottom border?

It's really annoying for people moving from Win32.

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