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The conclusion of the GPLv3 processThe conclusion of the GPLv3 processPosted Jul 5, 2007 12:37 UTC (Thu) by RobSeace (subscriber, #4435)Parent article: The conclusion of the GPLv3 process Pet peeve: It's kluge, NOT kludge... ;-)
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Kluge not kludge Posted Jul 5, 2007 15:40 UTC (Thu) by pr1268 (subscriber, #24648) [Link] Actually, both spellings appear correct: The word appears to have an unknown etymology, thus best explaining the ambiguous spelling.
Kluge not kludge Posted Jul 5, 2007 18:29 UTC (Thu) by cpeterso (guest, #305) [Link] Though "kluge" is the clear Google Fight winner:
http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1...
Whether you accept internet group think as a valid arbiter of spelling is another question.. :)
Kluge not kludge Posted Jul 6, 2007 14:41 UTC (Fri) by lowar (subscriber, #1642) [Link] > Though "kluge" is the clear Google Fight winner
No surprise here: "kluge" is a valid word in German...
And another thing... Posted Jul 5, 2007 15:43 UTC (Thu) by pr1268 (subscriber, #24648) [Link] And another thing: Since when did Eric S. Raymond become an expert on geek terminology? Yes, I know he has some word histories on his site, but c'mon! ;-)
And another thing... Posted Jul 5, 2007 17:10 UTC (Thu) by RobSeace (subscriber, #4435) [Link] Um, that's a link to the Jargon File; aka The New Hacker's Dictionary... ESR was editor/maintainer at one point, which is why he's hosting a copy, I imagine... But, I'd consider the Jargon File/TNHD to be a pretty definitive source when it comes to hacker slang... I'd certainly trust it a hell of a lot more than Merriam-Webster or Dictionary.com, anwyay... (Though, if you followed my links, you'd see that even the Jargon File lists "kludge" as well; it's its own separate word, but is now generally misused as a misspelling of "kluge"...)
And another thing... Posted Jul 6, 2007 1:27 UTC (Fri) by JoeBuck (subscriber, #2330) [Link] No, it's not; ESR hijacked the thing to promote his own ideology, filling it with terminology from right-wing blogs that has nothing to do with hackers.
And another thing... Posted Jul 6, 2007 8:58 UTC (Fri) by bronson (subscriber, #4806) [Link] He also filled it with utterly lame words that he himself thought up. Alas, it's become quite the revisionist disaster. Here's the original: http://www.dourish.com/goodies/jargon.html
It says: KLUGE (kloodj) alt. KLUDGE [from the German "kluge", clever] ...
So everybody is correct. :)
And another thing... Posted Jul 6, 2007 10:36 UTC (Fri) by RobSeace (subscriber, #4435) [Link] The original, while an interesting historical document that should certainly be preserved, is hardly as thorough or as interesting as the latter-day Jargon File/TNHD... (IMHO, the best parts are not even the dictionary, but stuff like "The Story of Mel" and "A Story about Magic"...) The complaint at that page (that the focus was changed from LISP/AI to Unix) hardly seems fair, given that's the way the WORLD was changing, as well... Hackerdom was changing with it, and so too should its record of known jargon... I don't know what ESR did or didn't do in later versions of the Jargon File; maybe he did go overboard on some entries... But, don't write off the whole thing... It was really VERY good, at one point... Specifically, the version as published in book form as "The New Hackers Dictionary" was great, IMHO... And, quite frankly, I don't see anything too wrong/different with the newest version he has on his site now, either... Where exactly are all the supposed attrocities in it?? (In fact, it looks like they may not exist at all...)
And another thing... Posted Jul 16, 2007 19:32 UTC (Mon) by Baylink (subscriber, #755) [Link] "Um... that was"...
a *joke*, Rob. You were supposed to laugh. :-)
The conclusion of the GPLv3 process Posted Jul 5, 2007 22:49 UTC (Thu) by Tet (subscriber, #5433) [Link] Errr... no. If you look at the context, "kludge" seems far more appropriate than "kluge" here.
The conclusion of the GPLv3 process Posted Jul 5, 2007 23:06 UTC (Thu) by RobSeace (subscriber, #4435) [Link] Are you making some kind of clever joke about the GPL2 being related to a toilet (the actual original meaning of "kludge")?? If so, I'm not gonna even touch that one... ;-)
Or, do you mean the TMRC definition of "a crock that works"? If so, I tend to see it as more as the "clever trick to solve a nasty case" of kluge, instead... *shrug*
Cludgie Posted Jul 6, 2007 0:43 UTC (Fri) by xoddam (subscriber, #2322) [Link] > a toilet (the actual original meaning of "kludge")
That's not "kludge", that's "cludgie", with two syllables,
http://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scots_slang
It may or may not be related to "kluge"/"kludge".
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