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A Fedora 7 FAQ

For people looking at installing Fedora 7, there is now a Fedora 7 FAQ available with answers to questions which have come up so far.
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Surprised and disappointed

Posted Jun 6, 2007 18:08 UTC (Wed) by allesfresser (subscriber, #216) [Link]

I don't know if I'm the only one that noticed this, but after downloading the Fedora 7 i386 DVD, I installed it on a spare machine and I was shocked at how slow it was to install, and also how slow it was to boot. It took several times as long to install as Ubuntu (with the default install, no extra software), and the boot process was unbelievably slow. Does anyone else see this?

Surprised and disappointed

Posted Jun 6, 2007 18:53 UTC (Wed) by marduk (subscriber, #3831) [Link]

I haven't noticed any unusual slowness. What I have noticed, and it's not in the FAQ, was that the Fedora 7 Test 2 release had a nice new icon theme that I was starting to like, but when Fedora 7 Final was released it doesn't appear that those icons were not included. What happened to them?

Surprised and disappointed

Posted Jun 6, 2007 22:59 UTC (Wed) by jwboyer (subscriber, #23296) [Link]

Echo is still there. It's just not the default because the art team didn't think it was ready.

Surprised and disappointed

Posted Jun 6, 2007 20:45 UTC (Wed) by quintesse (subscriber, #14569) [Link]

Possibly you're not a long-time Linux user yet and are seeing the fact that Ubuntu has recently started to use "upstart" (http://lwn.net/Articles/202779/)? It has resulted in quite a big improvement in start-up time as far as I know.

For Fedora they are still thinking about a replacement for the aging init system, but I'm not sure a far along those ideas are (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FCNewInit).

Surprised and disappointed

Posted Jun 6, 2007 22:38 UTC (Wed) by allesfresser (subscriber, #216) [Link]

*chuckle* Ah, no... I've been using Linux since 1995, although I've been a Slackware, Debian and now Ubuntu user, not Red Hat/Fedora. That said, Fedora 7 is still (for me) significantly slower in booting than Slackware 11 as well as Ubuntu Feisty. (I did know about the change to upstart, but since Slackware doesn't use upstart (yet) and it's still faster in booting than Fedora 7, I'm back to square one.)

If anyone's curious, I'm doing this test on an older Dell (Celeron 2.2GHz, 1G RAM, 40G IDE HD, otherwise stock) so I'm not sure what hardware interactions might cause this if any. The Slackware and Ubuntu installs were done on the same machine.

Surprised and disappointed

Posted Jun 6, 2007 23:29 UTC (Wed) by edschofield (guest, #39993) [Link]

How slow? We have four desktop machines running FC6 that initially took 5-10 minutes to boot. It seems a bug in the Fedora kernels was disabling DMA on our SATA controller or drives. The mainline and Ubuntu kernels, in contrast, work fine. We now use the boot parameter ide0=noprobe to work around the problem on FC6.

Surprised and disappointed

Posted Jun 8, 2007 19:43 UTC (Fri) by jengelh (subscriber, #33263) [Link]

Quite as fast as FC7 here. But it seems to take less time for the kernel to boot to reach initramfs stage. Which is quite surprising, and subjectively, beats the time a SUSE kernel needs to enter initramfs. Though, FC6 also was quite speedy and I am not sure what tricks they[FC] use.

kqemu?

Posted Jun 7, 2007 5:55 UTC (Thu) by eru (subscriber, #2753) [Link]

The FAQ notes: Virtualization: KVM, Xen and Qemu supported with a new graphical installer and management tool virt-manager.

I wonder, does the Qemu support include having the kqemu module distributed in the default kernel (possible now since it was open-sourced)? That could be a reason to switch to Fedora 7. Dealing with 3.party modules is always a hassle.

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