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KeyJnote: A nifty engine for your presentations (Linux.com)
Linux.com looks at
making presentations with KeyJnote. "If you need to create a
presentation every now and then, but you find OpenOffice.org Impress too
complicated and bulky, check out KeyJnote, a tool that turns any PDF
document or set of graphics files into a professional-quality presentation
with impressive transition effects."
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KeyJnote: A nifty engine for your presentations (Linux.com) Posted Jun 4, 2007 18:13 UTC (Mon) by vondo (guest, #256) [Link] And later in the article, as I suspected:
"Unlike Impress, KeyJnote doesn't allow you to create presentations from scratch. To create presentation components, you can use whatever application you like, as long as it can output the final result as a PDF document or graphics files (JPEG, PNG, TIFF, and BMP are supported). Simply create a set of slides using the template you like, export it as a single PDF file or multiple images, and KeyJnote takes care of the rest."
I think I used a transition in a presentation once. The difficult part is always getting the content on the page correctly, not figuring out if I want to use a wipe or sparkles to make the transition.
KeyJnote: A nifty engine for your presentations (Linux.com) Posted Jun 4, 2007 18:31 UTC (Mon) by rknop (guest, #66) [Link] This is cool, though, because if you have *any* page layout software you know how to use, and that exports to PDF, you can turn it into a presentation.
That's part of the Unix philosophy....
I use OpenOffice Impress all the time and am quite comfortable with it. However, I can easily see using LaTeX to make a presentation that I'd use KeyJnote to show. Heck, until a year or so ago, when I had to put equations in my OOo presentations, I'd use LaTeX and turn it into an image instead of using the OOo equation editor. (Since then, I've become more familiar with the OOo equation editor, but LaTeX remains my first language.)
-Rob
KeyJnote: A nifty engine for your presentations (Linux.com) Posted Jun 4, 2007 21:06 UTC (Mon) by i3839 (subscriber, #31386) [Link] Err, there are great and many LaTeX classes for slideshows ("beamer" comes to mind). For me figuring out how to make a decent presentation was much easier with LaTeX than figuring out OpenOffice's crap (might be because I hate "office" kind of programs).
LaTeX Presentation Classes Posted Jun 5, 2007 8:28 UTC (Tue) by grantingram (guest, #18390) [Link] The problem with the LaTeX classes for presentations (or the ones I've used) is that you have to format yourself (decide how much text goes on a slide etc) which seems to couple the content and presentation together!
Which if your using LaTeX is what you want decoupled in the first place...
Though possibly I'm missing something. Oh and the KeyJnote software won't solve this problem either!
LaTeX Presentation Classes Posted Jun 5, 2007 10:08 UTC (Tue) by i3839 (subscriber, #31386) [Link] You're right that the presentation classes force you to worry about formatting more than usual. But on the other hand, as the sheets are coupled to the presentation you're going to do, it's you who knows best how much and what text you want on each slide. The lay-out and how it looks like is still handled by the class. More annoying are things like not automatically wrapping lines, for which there isn't really an excuse.
LaTeX decouples content from the presentation/visualisation, and it still does here, just a bit less effectively. It regards slides as part of the structure of the whole, instead of as part of the lay-out. So like it doesn't try to decide for you when new sections or chapters start, it doesn't try to guide your slide usage.
LaTeX doesn't decouple the structure of the whole from the content. You say what you want and LaTeX figures out how to make it look pretty.
PDF Presentations Posted Jun 5, 2007 14:05 UTC (Tue) by rfunk (subscriber, #4054) [Link] "if you have *any* page layout software you know how to use, and that exports to PDF,you can turn it into a presentation."
Yes, and I did that a decade ago using Acrobat Reader for display. These days kpdf and
KeyJnote: A nifty engine for your presentations (Linux.com) Posted Jun 5, 2007 3:30 UTC (Tue) by orospakr (guest, #40684) [Link] Unfortunately, it uses the xpdf engine for rendering the slides, which seems to produce more aliasing and artifacts than the libpoppler/cairo method that Evince uses.
KeyJnote: A nifty engine for your presentations (Linux.com) Posted Jun 5, 2007 8:26 UTC (Tue) by njs (guest, #40338) [Link] It uses gs, not xpdf, actually. Otherwise your comment is correct.
(I have a gradient background fill on the presentation I'm giving next week -- gs mangles it horribly, poppler mangles it not-quite-as-horribly, xpdf actually displays it perfectly. But it's very easy to just render everything to PNG using a good renderer, and still use keyjnote for the transitions, screen blanking, slide-finder, etc.)
KeyJnote: A nifty engine for your presentations (Linux.com) Posted Jun 5, 2007 12:16 UTC (Tue) by orospakr (guest, #40684) [Link] yipe, my bad. :(
KeyJnote: A nifty engine for your presentations (Linux.com) Posted Jun 5, 2007 14:41 UTC (Tue) by sanjoy (subscriber, #5026) [Link] Can you post or send me (sanjoy@mit.edu) the example of poppler mangling the gradient fill? I might submit a bug report. poppler is based on xpdf, so it should display as well as xpdf does. [As far as I understand it, poppler is xpdf pulled out into a shared library.] Which versions of gs, xpdf, and poppler are you using?
KeyJnote: A nifty engine for your presentations (Linux.com) Posted Jun 6, 2007 4:38 UTC (Wed) by njs (guest, #40338) [Link] https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11165
(And gs 8.15.3, but gs is pretty much hopeless at PDFs IME, so I'm unlikely to bother reporting it.)
libpoppler bug Posted Jun 8, 2007 13:59 UTC (Fri) by sanjoy (subscriber, #5026) [Link] Thanks for the report. I got a bugzilla account and added a comment that I have the same problem. Though gs 8.54 displays the file fine. To test if the most recent poppler has the problem, I compiled libpoppler 0.5.9 and installed it in /tmp/local. But I couldn't easily figure out how to compile libpoppler-glib.so, so the usual /usr/bin/evince wouldn't run when I set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to /tmp/local:
KeyJnote: A nifty engine for your presentations (Linux.com) Posted Jun 5, 2007 8:01 UTC (Tue) by debacle (subscriber, #7114) [Link] Does KeyJnote support incremental display, e.g. of bullet lists?
I'm using S5 (HTML + JavaScript) in Firefox for my presentations, created from DocBook slides sources. S5 supports incremental display well, but I don't know how to accurately print S5 stuff. Using PDFs makes some sense here.
KeyJnote: A nifty engine for your presentations (Linux.com) Posted Jun 5, 2007 9:44 UTC (Tue) by rsidd (subscriber, #2582) [Link] That isn't a function of KeyJnote, it's of your PDF creation software. LaTeX styles like prosper and beamer support it: it's basically several frames with a new bullet point in each one. In handout mode, they're all collapsed into one page.
KeyJnote will handle that fine, but you should choose a sensible transition (ie no "effects"): page-turning effects, etc, won't make sense or look nice.
In case it wasn't clear, KeyJnote is a viewer, not a presentation maker. It's a substitute for Adobe Reader / evince / kpdf that adds some shiny 3D effects, but such effects should be used sparingly (or not at all).
I use s5 Posted Jun 5, 2007 10:34 UTC (Tue) by coriordan (guest, #7544) [Link] I use aproject called s5 and I think it's pretty cool. It's CSS and javascript based, so all it needs is a laptop with Firefox (and it says it works with various other web browsers, but I've never had to try that). One nice thing is that it resizes the fonts if you resize the window. On my laptop, I use a non-standard resolution and many projectors show a subset of my screen, so with s5 I can just resize the window to match what the projector is showing, and the fonts sizes etc. adapt to the new window size. I was using some pdf or latex presentation until one day I got a series of font errors 30 minutes before I had to make a presentation. A friend gave me his slides and I quickly replaced his content with mine and everything worked fine.
Two-Headed Presentation Anyone? Posted Jun 6, 2007 13:26 UTC (Wed) by BrucePerens (subscriber, #2510) [Link] Is there a two-headed presentation engine in Open Source? I mean one that can handle a VGA output that is a different window (or a different part of a root window) from the LCD? My laptop uses the Intel driver and can do that. It would be cool to be able to read text from the LCD and have slides on the projector, to preview or select slides on the LCD while not disturbing the projector, etc.Thanks Bruce
Two-Headed Presentation Anyone? Posted Jun 18, 2007 13:44 UTC (Mon) by sachingarg (subscriber, #38869) [Link] The Beamer class in LaTeX has an option for a two-headed presentation.
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