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Windows firewall squeezes into USB key (LinuxDevices)

LinuxDevices looks at the Yoggie Pico. "Yoggie Security Systems has squeezed a complete hardware firewall for Windows systems into a USB key sized form-factor. The "Yoggie Pico" runs Linux 2.6 along with 13 security applications on a 520MHz PXA270, a powerful Intel processor popular in smartphones and other high-end consumer devices."
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Windows firewall squeezes into USB key (LinuxDevices)

Posted May 30, 2007 4:39 UTC (Wed) by Brotherred (guest, #45141) [Link]

This article is a miss namer. It says Windows firewall. And then says it uses the Linux kernel. I can I think decipher that it has a x server installed for windowing affects I guess but they should not call it a Windows fire wall per se. Though for my own sake I am glad it is not the branded MS Windows. That would not belong on this site anyway really.

Windows firewall squeezes into USB key (LinuxDevices)

Posted May 30, 2007 7:11 UTC (Wed) by irios (guest, #19838) [Link]

Quite possibly, reading the article would have helped you understand it.

It so happens it IS a firewall for Windows, it DOES use the Linux kernel, it has NOTHING to do with X servers, wherever Windows are mentioned it is indeed the branded MS Windows, and it clearly does belong on this site anyway.

Wow, you got NOTHING right!

Next time, read first, then think, then type. There is a reason why the RTFA acronym exists.

Windows firewall squeezes into USB key (LinuxDevices)

Posted May 30, 2007 12:40 UTC (Wed) by i3839 (guest, #31386) [Link]

Well, he has one thing right: It is misnamed. It should be called "Linux firewall to protect MS Windows", or "Firewall for MS Windows".

"Windows firewall" implies that it's not running Linux, but MS Windows instead. (For the people who disagree: I sell diamond rings, only $10. Want one?)

Windows firewall squeezes into USB key (LinuxDevices)

Posted May 30, 2007 20:31 UTC (Wed) by bronson (subscriber, #4806) [Link]

It's a firewall for Windows computers, hence Windows Firewall. Makes perfect sense to me.

"Linux firewall to protect MS Windows?" I can tell you're not in marketing! Maybe DSL modems should be called, "Small Linux boxes with modems to connect to DSLAMs?" ;-)

Windows firewall squeezes into USB key (LinuxDevices)

Posted May 31, 2007 1:02 UTC (Thu) by i3839 (guest, #31386) [Link]

Oh boy, we're leaving such a mess behind for the future archaeologists...

"'Windows firewall'? What do they mean with that, it makes no sense."

"A wall of fire with windows in it..?"

"No, we researched it for a decade, and the best we could come up with is that it's a small computer connected to a bigger one which does something the big one could do, but doesn't do well enough."

"And what has that do with windows and firewalls?"

"Part of the software running on the big machine is named 'Windows', you don't want to hear what a firewall does."

"Really? Come on.."

"Well, they had a nice thing which would connect all the machines they have together, as far as we know all firewalls do is hampering those connections."

"So they made a device that makes another device function less effective, and named it after software running on the other machine?"

"Pretty much, and it's a damn expensive thing too."

"That doesn't make any sense at all, no wonder that civilisation perished."

"Yeah, they'd must have marketing."

Windows firewall squeezes into USB key (LinuxDevices)

Posted May 30, 2007 7:13 UTC (Wed) by rvfh (subscriber, #31018) [Link]

"On the software side, Yoggie developed its Linux stack in-house,
starting out with Debian Linux packages."

"Three of Yoggie's applications were licensed from third parties, while
half a dozen were written in-house, and another four derived from open
source software packages."

Where's the source code for the free parts?

Windows firewall squeezes into USB key (LinuxDevices)

Posted May 30, 2007 9:40 UTC (Wed) by tialaramex (subscriber, #21167) [Link]

If you buy one and the answer doesn't become obvious (e.g. its in a folder labelled "Source code" on the accompanying documentation CD) then I guess you will be able to ask the people who sold it to you or those who made it.

We already have someone in this thread who didn't RTFA so let's not ask "where's the source code?" prematurely too or this will turn into Slashdot and I'll regret renewing my LWN subscription.

Fair question

Posted May 30, 2007 10:12 UTC (Wed) by man_ls (subscriber, #15091) [Link]

I think it was a fair question. The Linux kernel e.g. has lots of copyright holders, they have a right to know if the license to their contributions has been complied with without having to buy every device that use them.

Fair question

Posted May 30, 2007 15:52 UTC (Wed) by martinfick (subscriber, #4455) [Link]

"they have a right to know if the license to their contributions has been complied with without having to buy every device that use them"

Actually, they don't. Nowhere in the GPL does it say: you must make the copyright holders aware of any use of their software. The only person whom you must do that to is the person you distribute the software to. If the copyright holders care, it is up to them to investigate, just like it would be with proprietary software.

Fair question

Posted May 30, 2007 18:08 UTC (Wed) by man_ls (subscriber, #15091) [Link]

I don't really know if the copyright holder has the right to ask how the covered works were used, I suppose it is usually solved with a polite request.

I didn't mean anything so formal, OK? But once it is known that a product uses free software, the owners can make sure that their license is being complied with. Maybe posting on LWN is not the best way, but asking "where is the source code" seems legitimate enough.

Windows firewall squeezes into USB key (LinuxDevices)

Posted May 30, 2007 17:05 UTC (Wed) by tzafrir (subscriber, #11501) [Link]

According to a recent review of the product (Hebrew), no source code, GPL license statement or whatever is accompanied, and the reviewer is quite unhappy with that.

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