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Emacs...Emacs...Posted May 17, 2007 14:20 UTC (Thu) by alessandro.russo (guest, #6471)Parent article: Waiting for Emacs 22 (and looking forward to Emacs 23)
I remember very well the first time I realized the power of Emacs. It was in 1992, at Stanford.
Since then I heavily used emacs in the 90's, basically for latex and programming. I also wrote some small lisp code and helped RMS with X widgets.
Now emacs doesn't fit any more on my desktop. The main reason is lack of support for font antialiasing; it has been in CVS for years (unfortunately it doesn't work very well), but as far as I understand it's not going to be in emacs 22.
I use it from time to time for very specific tasks (for instance editing a binary file).
Too bad.
ale
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Emacs... Posted May 17, 2007 16:10 UTC (Thu) by zooko (subscriber, #2589) [Link] I'm a long-time user of XEmacs, and I recently installed the new XEmacs unstable release in order to see if the fonts look better. They do! They are very pretty! I have found two new bugs in the XEmacs unstable version that I encounter frequently, but I know how to work-around. Other than those two, everything else works.
So if you like emacs but you can't stand ugly fonts, give XEmacs a try. I ended up compiling 21.5.27 myself from the source tarball on Linux. On Mac I use Andrew Choi's port of XEmacs (also 21.5.27), and on Windows I use cygwin's X11 and cygwin's XEmacs, 21.5.23. That one has uglier fonts than the Linux and Mac versions do.
Regards,
Zooko
Emacs... Posted May 18, 2007 21:21 UTC (Fri) by hein.zelle (guest, #33324) [Link] Indeed, unless the XFT support within emacs shapes up rather soon, I'm seriously starting to consider the impossible - switching to another editor. I'll certainly give xemacs a try if that ever happens.
I'm amazed this is going on for so long without even a properly working cvs version: I'm starting to have serious trouble getting emacs to even use a readible font in modern linux distributions, either with dual screen setups or high resolution displays. I really don't care about emacs and the way it works being old-fashioned, but the font issue had better be resolved sometime soon.
The point someone made about fixing the defaults is also a good one - it's rather prehistoric to have an editor which requires configuration to show colors, not switch the backspace and delete keys (does that still happen? not sure) and to open new files in a running editor process. I also blame distributors here: why don't debian/ubuntu/fedora add these things to a default ~/.emacs file and put it in /etc/skel ? Or put it in the system-wide emacs configuration debian already has?
Emacs... Posted May 18, 2007 23:21 UTC (Fri) by hein.zelle (guest, #33324) [Link] Well, thankfully Emacs proved me wrong within 2 hours of trying out the latest CVS version of the XFT branch. Apologies to the developers for the previous post - it seems to run fine, and I can even select the fonts from my Xresources file like I used to. And I must say - it looks great with truetype fonts and anti-aliasing.
Emacs... Posted Jun 5, 2007 0:33 UTC (Tue) by fcsaszar (guest, #45596) [Link] You can have a very nice looking font without requiring anti aliasing by using the Terminus font (http://fractal.csie.org/~eric/wiki/Terminus_font or apt-get install xfonts-terminus). In fact, I prefer it to any antialiased font.
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