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Dude, you're getting Ubuntu (Linux.com)

Dude, you're getting Ubuntu (Linux.com)

Posted May 2, 2007 3:18 UTC (Wed) by leoc (subscriber, #39773)
In reply to: Dude, you're getting Ubuntu (Linux.com) by emkey
Parent article: Dude, you're getting Ubuntu (Linux.com)

I switched my 65+ year old computer-phobe in-laws from XP to Ubuntu last year and they are much happier. Things "just work" and I have to spend a LOT less time at their place cleaning up viruses and junk software that they naively install. With Ubuntu, they can do their word processing, email, and photo downloading without any problems.


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Dude, you're getting Ubuntu (Linux.com)

Posted May 2, 2007 16:44 UTC (Wed) by emkey (guest, #144) [Link]

Linux is only marginally less prone to viruses and such than Windows. As Linux gains popularity on the desktop we're going to start seeing more and more virus, etc.

Dude, you're getting Ubuntu (Linux.com)

Posted May 2, 2007 19:07 UTC (Wed) by bronson (subscriber, #4806) [Link]

This is absolutely true. People will *always* want to download whizzy customizations straight from the internet. Weatherbug, comet cursor, etc. It's just human nature. If Linux ran downloads from jails by default then I would agree that it was safer by default. As it is today, for the common user, Linux and Windows appear to be more or less equally vulnerable.

"You can delete all the files in my home directory but for pity's sake don't set my laptop's clock!!"
-- Thomas Hinkle on Linux's strange choice of actions that require passwords.

Dude, you're getting Ubuntu (Linux.com)

Posted May 3, 2007 14:08 UTC (Thu) by peace (guest, #10016) [Link]

Of course with Windows, you can delete all the victims files *and then* set their clock.

Dude, you're getting Ubuntu (Linux.com)

Posted May 3, 2007 14:18 UTC (Thu) by peace (guest, #10016) [Link]

Please define "marginally". I don't think that word means what you think it means. The numbers simply do not support your assertion.

Also, please note, that just because Windows is popular *and* insecure does not mean that Linux will be insecure at any popularity level. I'm not sure exactly what brand of false reasoning your exhibiting, but it does not compute.

Windows made it's bed in the mid nineties and now it has to sleep in it. Not every OS made such horrible decisions around security.

-peace

Dude, you're getting Ubuntu (Linux.com)

Posted May 29, 2007 22:03 UTC (Tue) by emkey (guest, #144) [Link]

I've been working with Windows and Unix/Linux like operating systems for twenty plus years now. I have a very good understanding of each and I'm here to tell you that while the Unix/Linux security model is generally superior it is only marginally less vulnerable to the sorts of problems that plague the windows world. viruses? Totally doable. Mallware? Totally doable. Trojans? Totally doable. You don't need escalated privileges for any of these. Throw in the fact that Windows has increasingly sophisticated firewall software that is enabled by default while most Linux systems don't and the overall picture starts to tilt in Windows favor.

I know exactly what marginally means BTW. Which is why I didn't hesitate to use it again in my response. ;)

And yes, I'm aware of iptables. I manually configure it on my home and work systems because I have to.

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