A Debian developer's thoughts on the state of Debian (Linux-Watch) [LWN.net]

A Debian developer's thoughts on the state of Debian (Linux-Watch)

Posted Apr 16, 2007 22:01 UTC (Mon) by sbergman27 (subscriber, #10767)
In reply to: A Debian developer's thoughts on the state of Debian (Linux-Watch) by tuxchick
Parent article: A Debian developer's thoughts on the state of Debian (Linux-Watch)

I believe that may be a symptom of the problem that Ian Murdock recently highlighted:

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The problem with too much process is you get into design by committee - you get into a situation where without strong leadership no one feels empowered to make decisions.
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http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/murdockint.html

In my opinion, if most of the devs have silently put certain people in their kill files, it would really have been more honest and forthright for Debian to have banned them, outright, from the mailing lists. If you're going to censor someone, and have good reasons for doing it, then by the gods, be up front about it.

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A Debian developer's thoughts on the state of Debian (Linux-Watch)

Posted Apr 17, 2007 0:41 UTC (Tue) by nlucas (subscriber, #33793) [Link]

And the recent Gentoo community problems are just the same.
Many years ago, Gentoo was known for the great helping community it had. Time passes, trolls arrive, no strong leader to take the responsibility of banning them (or simply shut them up) and the "good guys" in the community are lost in the noise of the flame wars.