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Quotes of the week

Posted Mar 15, 2007 16:14 UTC (Thu) by tjc (subscriber, #137)
In reply to: Quotes of the week by u-ra
Parent article: Quotes of the week

Jesus Christ, someone ought to make a t-shirt with this.
Here you go. ;-)

http://www.christianshirts.net/products.php?product=2178


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Posted Mar 15, 2007 16:33 UTC (Thu) by vmole (guest, #111) [Link]

Spammer. (Apparently, that's too short to pass the LWN comment checker.)

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Posted Mar 15, 2007 16:54 UTC (Thu) by bronson (subscriber, #4806) [Link]

I think it's just an unfunny joke...
"Jesus Christ, someone ought to make a t-shirt with this." ->
"someone ought to make a t-shirt with Jesus Christ".
Definitely not worth posting though.

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Posted Mar 15, 2007 16:58 UTC (Thu) by tjc (subscriber, #137) [Link]

Definitely not worth posting though.
It's OK for someone to post something profane, but it's not OK to respond with gentle humor?

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Posted Mar 15, 2007 17:03 UTC (Thu) by k8to (subscriber, #15413) [Link]

I don't think that's universally considered (nor even commonly considered) profane. But that aside, I don't think anyone's complaining that funny is bad, but that they don't think it was funny enough.

Me, I'm doubtful that not-funny-enough is worth posting. But then again, is such an observation worth posting either? Sigh.

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Posted Mar 15, 2007 19:03 UTC (Thu) by tjc (subscriber, #137) [Link]

I don't think that's universally considered (nor even commonly considered) profane.
Nothing is universally considered, expect maybe things like "the sky is blue."

As far as commonly considered usage, that depends on where you live. If you live in the southern United States, then it is definitely commonly considered profane to use the phrase "Jesus Christ" in an offhand manner. If you live in Europe, probably not, since only a very small percentage of Europe is Christian.

But then again, is such an observation worth posting either? Sigh.
I'm giving you another chance to resist temptation. ;-)

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Posted Mar 16, 2007 8:34 UTC (Fri) by u-ra (guest, #42575) [Link]

If you said that seriously, which I doubt, I guess you should check this first: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Europe

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Posted Mar 16, 2007 14:55 UTC (Fri) by tjc (subscriber, #137) [Link]

I don't have a clear idea what those numbers mean, since I don't know the questions that were asked on the survey. But it's fairly obvious to even a casual observer that Christianity is not a big part of modern European society.

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Posted Mar 16, 2007 15:10 UTC (Fri) by k8to (subscriber, #15413) [Link]

To drag it further off topic, I will give you that modern western europe's society relates to christianity in a notably different way than than some united states towns. I think something along those lines is what you're trying to say.

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Posted Mar 17, 2007 16:25 UTC (Sat) by hingo (guest, #14792) [Link]

Uh, I'm a European, can I say something?

All European countries are Christian. Northern Europe is Protestant (Lutheran, Anglican), Southern is Catholic and Eastern is (Greek) Orthodox. That being said, most countries today are secular, meaning people are not religious although they do belong to a church and may or may not visit it at Christmas time.

Same goes for my understanding of the word profane. The phrase "Jesus Christ" in the above context is certainly profane purely by definition. Whether a particular reader is aggravated by such profanity is another matter entirely, I certainly am not. As for Europe, at least in Northern Europe a grand mother would likely use that phrase for exclamation. Unless she is religious, in which case she would not dare speak such profanities. See?

Now there... With this post I'm not only off-topic, I'm also teaching Americans English. Where is LWN going...

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Posted Mar 17, 2007 18:45 UTC (Sat) by tjc (subscriber, #137) [Link]

All European countries are Christian. Northern Europe is Protestant (Lutheran, Anglican), Southern is Catholic and Eastern is (Greek) Orthodox. That being said, most countries today are secular, meaning people are not religious although they do belong to a church and may or may not visit it at Christmas time.
May or may not visit church at Christmas time? That's an exceedingly broad definition of being a Christian!

That's sort of like saying "I'm a programmer, but I may or may not write a program once a year." :-)

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Posted Mar 18, 2007 15:44 UTC (Sun) by filipjoelsson (subscriber, #2622) [Link]

This is so far off topic - that I'm not ashamed of chipping in. ;)

> May or may not visit church at Christmas time? That's an exceedingly broad
> definition of being a Christian!

The keyword was secular. A lot of Europeans belong to churches because it was mandatory to belong to a church up until some 50 years ago in some countries here. Sweden, where I live, is among them. Guess what? We're the most secular country in the world now (or in the top 3 at least) - but still most people belong to a congregation, since their folks did. Up until 7 years ago the church was a part of the state here, the priests where government officials.

Anyway, what does being Christian have to do with the worlds biggest commercial holiday?

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Posted Mar 15, 2007 18:50 UTC (Thu) by bronson (subscriber, #4806) [Link]

For the record, tjc, I feel it's perfectly OK for you to post that. Since it offered little of value and nothing related to Linux, however, I feel it probably wasn't worth posting here. Subtle but important difference.

Sorry for the noise. I just wanted to make sure that I didn't accidentally join the LWN Posting Police. :)

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Posted Mar 16, 2007 7:40 UTC (Fri) by u-ra (guest, #42575) [Link]

Wait, wait, wait, what can you possibly be referring to with "profane"?

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Posted Mar 16, 2007 10:32 UTC (Fri) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]

The T-shirt had some invisible ink on it praising DRM. ;)

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