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Finally!Finally!Posted Feb 22, 2007 6:27 UTC (Thu) by k8to (subscriber, #15413)In reply to: Finally! by marduk Parent article: ESR's goodbye note
While he certainly did some unsafe things, I do not believe upgrading should be considered potentionally unsafe. At least at the level of a personal system.
Sure on a production server, some minor differences in behavior might be catastrophic, but on a personal system, upgrading should leave me with a running system 100% of the time. I don't think this is unachievable, and I think it has generallly been achieved on most Linux distributions.
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Finally! Posted Feb 22, 2007 7:31 UTC (Thu) by bojan (subscriber, #14302) [Link] Well, these "some unsafe things" turned out to be rather important libraries. So, the system was hosed. If he used the rescue CD, he could have gotten all those back in a few minutes.
If he didn't force it, nothing bad would happen. The system would be 100% usable. In other words, the software refused to performed an unsafe operation. As designed.
The real issue is that he found a packaging bug. He should have reported it. And he would get a proper workaround until it was fixed. So, the big issue he made out if this is nothing but a regular occurrence in any software - bugs.
Finally! Posted Feb 22, 2007 14:15 UTC (Thu) by k8to (subscriber, #15413) [Link] Yes I acknowledged that.
Specific case: ESR removed a library and was sad.
General case: upgrading without removing random libraries like a bonehead should not be unsafe or even really potentially unsafe. It should work.
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