The Pillars of KDE 4: Decibel Definitions and Benefits (KDE.News)
[Posted February 16, 2007 by ris]
KDE.News looks at the
definitions and benefits of Decibel. "In part 1, we gave a general
overview of Decibel. In part 2, we cover everyone's favorite section - the
definitions! Well, at least we hope that the definitions will be
informative. Part 3 will describe some benefits for developers while part 4
deals with benefits for users."
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The Pillars of KDE 4: Decibel Definitions and Benefits (KDE.News)
Posted Feb 19, 2007 18:53 UTC (Mon) by mmarq (guest, #2332)
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Why isnt it "decibel" proposed for freedesktop standard. The most fundamental piece, DBUS, is already a standard, and being decibel agnostic to platform and GUI toolkits i cant figure out why not ?
The Pillars of KDE 4: Decibel Definitions and Benefits (KDE.News)
Posted Feb 19, 2007 18:59 UTC (Mon) by aseigo (guest, #18394)
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decibel is an implementation of this specification for kde, working with
the tapioca project which is part of the whole telepathy concept and
implementation.
The Pillars of KDE 4: Decibel Definitions and Benefits (KDE.News)
Posted Feb 19, 2007 20:11 UTC (Mon) by mmarq (guest, #2332)
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Not only Tapioca stuff, but also Houston..and why not Akonadi!
Well, at least applying dosent hurt. Its time to cut out the divisory divergences of FLOSS desktops, centered around KDE/Gnome differences.
There always be some differences, hoted ones too,.. but cant the people work toghether in *all* those parts that are possible ? So applying is the first step.
Figuring out what might be the best parts of the Lego is the next,... and that should be platform agnostic, as much as possible, that is, with the INTENTION of making it possible for as many DEs as possible. And that Intention is much more than 50% of the way, if it can catch on the positive judjement of an applying Project Leader... And language should not be a problem, because who knows C should easly know C++ and vice versa, and bindings are already possibel and for many others too.
In an example: i saying that the storage part of Akonadi could be better served integrating something like Gnome-Storage, because it can connect to a real object relational database(postgres), shouldnt insult no one, even if i'm wrong.
I mean, it shouldnt be about who is right or who is wrong, its about what is best even if it loses in some points, but by compensation it will win in many others making it worthwhyle.
Applying and asking for discussion, should be insensivel to the negative critic poison. Its up to the POSITIVE GUY to maintain clarity and firmness in is good intentions. So *Apply* should be heard everywhere... it will not stop work, and most of all can make some wrong ways from wasting time.
Great work.
The Pillars of KDE 4: Decibel Definitions and Benefits (KDE.News)
Posted Feb 21, 2007 6:19 UTC (Wed) by aseigo (guest, #18394)
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that's the spirit we need more of in the community =)
we do need to be aware of the ballance between standardization (which
tends to result in (near-)ossification, which is sometimes exactly what we
need) and innovation (which is easier to do without feters like "you must
be compliant with spec X, and your changes must work with implementation
Y")
other than that, i think we are doing a better and better job of throwing
things into the community hat.
there are speedbumps at times, however. in boston earlier this month it
was suggested that we share settings for default applications. i came up
with a fairly low-pain way of doing this, the fedora packagers seemed cool
with it but the gnome developers in attendance rejected the idea. they
said that gnome and kde are different platforms anyways, so it doesn't
matter. i'm sure gnomers have encountered similar moments with other
projects, likely including people who contribute to kde (i don't know of
an example off hand, but i'm not so daft as to assume it's never
happened ;).
so, we have a ways to go as a combined community, but boy are we better
off than we were 5 years ago. =)
The Pillars of KDE 4: Decibel Definitions and Benefits (KDE.News)
Posted Feb 20, 2007 8:45 UTC (Tue) by hunger (subscriber, #36242)
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Hey Aaron,
you are cutting Decibel short;-)
Decibel is *NOT* an implementation of the Telepathy
specification, Decibel just uses it! Decibel is a service layer on top of
Tapioca that is doing things like account management, contact management,
etc. that are well outside the Telepathy specification yet necessary for
basically all communication applications.
What you are doing is a bit like claiming the GStreamer framework is yet
another sound driver:-)
The Pillars of KDE 4: Decibel Definitions and Benefits (KDE.News)
Posted Feb 21, 2007 2:07 UTC (Wed) by aseigo (guest, #18394)
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true enough; it is a lot more than just a layer riding on top of
telepathy. that it is using the standardized bits and pieces where they
exist is a good thing, all the same =)