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The Road to KDE 4: Okular and Ligature Document Viewers (KDE.News)

The Road to KDE 4: Okular and Ligature Document Viewers (KDE.News)

Posted Feb 15, 2007 2:50 UTC (Thu) by aseigo (guest, #18394)
In reply to: The Road to KDE 4: Okular and Ligature Document Viewers (KDE.News) by mmarq
Parent article: The Road to KDE 4: Okular and Ligature Document Viewers (KDE.News)

> Most important it misses *html* support.

isn't that best supported by a web browser? i suppose the annotation would
be nice, but i'm really not sure we need another html viewer?

> Couldnt Okular somehow be made to work with

my hope is that eventually most of these annotation type things will be
kept, or at least indexed/mirrored, in a store such as strigi (+nepomuk
for some use cases). this will give broad access to annotations, tags, etc
regardless of the application.

that's almost certainly post-4.0 stuff though.

> currently it only supports PDF and djvu

and ODF. in any case, i believe the annotation support is for the file
format, while okular will let you annotate any file it can open. it just
won't be able to save them into the file (most of those file formats don't
support annotations)

> What would be a universal viewer without search capabilitys from its
> interface

it's had search there since kde3, right in the navigation bar. it even
highlights hits in the thumbnails.

> but if somehow it could import/export annotaded copys

i believe this is already on the roadmap, if i recall their presentation
at least year's aKademy in dublin.


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The Road to KDE 4: Okular and Ligature Document Viewers (KDE.News)

Posted Feb 15, 2007 19:22 UTC (Thu) by jospoortvliet (subscriber, #33164) [Link]

why wouldn't this be possible for KDE 4.0? If Strigi and Nepomuk have
their libraries worked out, would it be very hard to use them for the
storage of annotations?

The Road to KDE 4: Okular and Ligature Document Viewers (KDE.News)

Posted Feb 16, 2007 16:11 UTC (Fri) by mmarq (guest, #2332) [Link]

Thanks for your comment

"" but i'm really not sure we need another html viewer? ""

well, not just another viewer, but something like scrapbook. And for that matter integration of something like greasemonkey, but here the distinction of a viewer from an editor is blurred.

Its my ideia that we dont need another email viewer or image viewer or stream player( music, video), but okular can be the engine for viewing or previewing all, annotaded, from the hard disk and with automatic escape to their respective application. Integrated into konqueror, can make a file browser into something like never dreamed before!

"" my hope is that eventually most of these annotation type things will be
kept, or at least indexed/mirrored, in a store such as strigi... ...this will give broad access to annotations, tags, etc regardless of the application... ...it just won't be able to save them into the file (most of those file formats don't support annotations)... ""

Right, most of the file formats dont support annotations, but something like BasKet can superimpose annotations.. no ? That is, if i drop a (any) document into a basket it can be annotated. And upon "open" it can remenber the "locality" of placement of associated annotations... if it can be done transparently from the viewer, that is, embedded in the viewer like in kmail... awesome. Its the scrapbook type of functionality again, but on steroids.

"" it's had search there since kde3, right in the navigation bar ""

Integration of strigi with backend capability, great ! Its my view that Okular can be the *preferred application* for search engines like kat or beagle( why not?), the *one* that a "search" will automaticly triggers in the KDE environment.

"" i believe this is already on the roadmap ""

Import/export, or transfer like in FTP, of annotated documents can only be done i belive, if those file formats allow attachments... hmmm, but if all documents could be indexed or linked or encapsulated in a html/xml file, FTPing that file will download the document and the associated annotations file... its just a thought... but one that transferred to Win and Mac worlds, will make Kde and open source referenced everywhere often...

* MAGNIFICENT WORK YOU HAVE BEING DOING IN KDE, SINCERE CONGRATULATIONS... KUUDOS... *

The Road to KDE 4: Okular and Ligature Document Viewers (KDE.News)

Posted Feb 16, 2007 16:29 UTC (Fri) by mmarq (guest, #2332) [Link]

Just one last thought... kicker.

Just like the advanced menu of gnome, very familiar to Win users, if kicker could have a similar design with a small okular tab for previews upon searchs, it will make Win users clearly see why they were always lacking in functionality, and Mac users see that they dont have the best of the best anymore!

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