Possible routes to kernel on GPLv3
Posted Jan 28, 2007 7:41 UTC (Sun) by bronson
In reply to: Possible routes to kernel on GPLv3
Parent article: GPL 3: An Open-Source Earthquake? (CRN)
That process definition shows how far behind schedule the GPLv3 is. It's now basically February 2007 and the third discussion draft is 4 months late. The "latest possible release date" is less than 8 weeks away. Even if they got draft 3 out today, that's hardly enough time to have any meaningful discussion.
Eben Moglen's blog entry sounds nice. "I invite them to represent themselves in any way they choose, and pledge to work with them to create, even at this late date, a form of participation in the deliberations about GPLv3 that would reflect their preferred means of work, and be appropriate to their position in the community of developers."
Except that never happened. Maybe Eben didn't realize that they _were_ participating using their preferred means of work? Their position statement was quite clear. Why didn't he just reply to it in his blog entry? In fact, I can't find a clear, authoritative reply anywhere. Just the clarification page which is so dismissive that it's not clear the author even read the kernel position statement.
Thankfully a number of people have posted clarifications here on LWN (thanks especially to coriordan), so I feel that the patent situation is actually in pretty good shape. I look forward to reading draft 3.
You suggested I google for the mailing list, "which you will find shows a lot more activity for Committee D than you suggested." So how am I supposed to know that Committee D mailing list archives even exist? I can't read minds. Lessee... 4 messages in November and none since then? Doesn't that demonstrates exactly the sort of inaction that I was talking about?
I agree that some discussion must be private. But almost all of it? You've got to be kidding me. That's an absurd claim to make. Sure, have one private mailing list/committee, but why not try to have at least *some* important discussion in the open?
I feel that I'm now fairly well informed (thanks for the links), and the whole process still looks decidedly non-free. Sorry. The FSF has a lot to learn about how to have an open discussion and how to set up an usable web site!
Please please please release a draft 3 in time for the kernel guys to have a few weeks to comment on it? After Eben's hard work on the Novell disaster, and the patent clarifications, I think we'll find that the two sides are much closer to agreement. But we'll never know if there's no draft 3, or no time to comment on it.
b3timmons, thanks for taking the time to respond.
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