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Possible routes to kernel on GPLv3Possible routes to kernel on GPLv3Posted Jan 27, 2007 20:48 UTC (Sat) by b3timmons (guest, #40286)In reply to: Possible routes to kernel on GPLv3 by bronson Parent article: GPL 3: An Open-Source Earthquake? (CRN)
Since nothing has happened since March 2006, if at all, I hope you understand why I feel disinclined to participate in committee D. Here's a crazy suggestion: open up the discussion. Maybe some mailing list archives, a forum, a regularly updated blog? This stuff is trivial; it takes all of 1/2 hour to set up. It sure would help; right now, gplv3.fsf.org looks totally abandoned. Not all websites hold your hand equally well, but what is so hard about doing a google search: Committee D mailing list site:gplv3.fsf.org The first hit gives: http://gplv3.fsf.org/mailman/listinfo/committee-d , which you will find shows a lot more activity for Committee D than you suggested. And why have secret police committees? I would really like to know what the GPLv3 drafters thought of the Kernel document. Since gplv3.fsf.org doesn't even acknowledge that the kernel guys exist, what can I do? File a Freedom of Information Act subpoena?? Of course, there were several bits of reaction about the kernel document, including http://www.fsf.org/news/gplv3-clarification "secret police committees" is just silly. Whether we get a more informed response than mine, we could indulge in a little common sense. Clearly, since companies are involved with concerns that they may wish to not be overly public, is it unreasonable to suppose that a committee with a certain privacy level would elicit more candid feedback from them? Likewise for the other groups. Of course, anyone could always contact any member with any concerns since they are all listed. Answer me this: since gplv3.fsf.org does not go out of its way to acknowledge any outside group, why should it acknowledge the kernel guys? Could you be more specific about some unfair inconsistency? Just imagine if the FSF wrote software using this process! The whole gplv3.fsf.org process demonstrates the very definition of "not open." Nonsense. The only thing not open I see is that some committees have a certain level of privacy. What do you want? For those committees to be totally public and then for the, say, corporate people, to not be frank about their concerns? Don't get me wrong; I can't wait until we have an updated GPL so the Microsoft-Novell hole can be plugged. I just wish the current draft were so encumbered with phantom issues. At this rate, it will take 4 more years to release and, when it finally does get shoved out the door, it will be identical to draft 1 of almost a year ago. Not good. "At this rate"? Are you not aware that they have long had a schedule to keep in order to get it out in two months? Phantom issues indeed: phantom adj : something apparently sensed but having no physical reality; "seemed to hear faint phantom bells"; "the amputee's illusion of a phantom limb" In short, I think your post is presumptuous and ill-informed, but maybe I am missing something. Apart from the MS-Novell deal that they have promised to handle, what are your issues with the second draft?
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