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A cost analysis of Vista content protection (just a bit off topic)

A cost analysis of Vista content protection (just a bit off topic)

Posted Dec 24, 2006 18:17 UTC (Sun) by TxtEdMacs (guest, #5983)
In reply to: A cost analysis of Vista content protection by drag
Parent article: A cost analysis of Vista content protection

" ... Pretty soon I'll start hearing that I am not allowed to buy certain types of fatty fried foods? (oh wait...)"

You might think this as humorous, but how well informed of the trans fat content of the food you consume? Were you aware that they were an inadvertant result of trying to lower arterial disease? Are you aware they are at least as dangerous (or more) as the food component they were meant to replace? I would guess not*. Recognize too the trans fat content is to the advantage of the producer/seller not the consumer. It is cheaper and more stable; as to having a taste advantage - there is none.

Are you against the "War Against Drugs"? I personally am in favor of giving the confiscated drugs away to confirmed addicts on the condition they they not pursue criminal activities. In addition, I would stress helping those kick the habit if they were motivated to try. Last I would place the lowest priority upon street level enforcement. The goal is to reduce the demand side and the profit margins so the business is less enticing to all concerned.

If you choose to knowingly kill yourself - fine with me, but I want you off any health insurance reimbursement system. Eat all the trans fats and consume all the addictive drugs you please - try tobacco. But don't cry later.

For me, I just do not like DRM equipped hardware being forced upon me when I play very little video or audio on my machines.

* I am painfully aware, because I happened to work on a multi-department, multi-university project meant to attack heart and arterial disease where the solution was as bad culprit: butter fat. Later instinctively I kept my butter fat intake low, but preferred it to margarine.


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A cost analysis of Vista content protection (just a bit off topic)

Posted Dec 25, 2006 8:04 UTC (Mon) by drag (subscriber, #31333) [Link]

""You might think this as humorous, but how well informed of the trans fat content of the food you consume? Were you aware that they were an inadvertant result of trying to lower arterial disease? Are you aware they are at least as dangerous (or more) as the food component they were meant to replace? I would guess not*. Recognize too the trans fat content is to the advantage of the producer/seller not the consumer. It is cheaper and more stable; as to having a taste advantage - there is none.""

No it's not fucking humorous. This thinking is the one of the most unfunny things I have ever heard in my entire life.

It's showing how absurd this thinking goes. If you don't want to eat transfat then DON'T. Nobody is going to force you, nobody gives a shit one way or another. It's MY LIFE. Not yours, not the government's, not anybody elses and Dammit, if I want KFC I want KFC.

Screw the a-holes trying to control every freaking aspect of our lives because they feel justified because they assume that everybody else is a completely and total fucking moron. People need to worry a hell of a lot about their own lives before they go around trying to control how other people live theirs.

""If you choose to knowingly kill yourself - fine with me, but I want you off any health insurance reimbursement system. Eat all the trans fats and consume all the addictive drugs you please - try tobacco. But don't cry later.""

Fuck that. This sort of thing REALY pisses me off. I WORK for a living. I make a valueable contribution to sociaty and I get compinsated. I use the money I earn to buy health insurance.

Are you saying that since a person does not follow your nutrional rules that they are less relevent and should be less able to get medical help?

Seems a bit fascist to me.

I am a grown person, work for a living, and it's not anybody else's business. It's NOT ANY OF YOUR BUSINESS.

SEROUSLY. Just because you want to be a cheap bastard doesn't mean that it gives you a right to control other people's lives. And you know what? You get rid of transfat it's not going to make anybody healthy, it's not going to make your insurance cheaper. It's NOT GOING TO ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING.

A fat bastard will just continue on being a fat bastard. They will get sick and die, and you know what? Nothing you will do will ever change anything. One way or another they are just going to find another way to kill themselves off slowly.

Do you comprehend how fucked up this whole thing is? The VERY IDEA of this whole thing is so completely counter to the idea of a free country.

Why not just pass a law saying that unless people walk a mile everyday they are going to get fined?

Why not just pass a law saying that a person has to eat a balanced diet and that stores are not allowed to sell people certain combinations of food?

Why not make it illegal to buy too much pork?

Here.. This is a great idea..

Why not use RATIONS to determine what food stores are allowed to sell to me. It would be brilliant idea!!!

That way people will be FORCED to only buy the correct balance of fruits and vegetables.

This is the way your going. It's just so completely asinine. Words just fail me. I am just failing to come up with polite words to express how completely and utterly how wrong this line of thinking is.

""* I am painfully aware, because I happened to work on a multi-department, multi-university project meant to attack heart and arterial disease where the solution was as bad culprit: butter fat. Later instinctively I kept my butter fat intake low, but preferred it to margarine."""

That's why it should be illegal to sell butter, right?

A cost analysis of Vista content protection (just a bit off topic)

Posted Dec 25, 2006 10:03 UTC (Mon) by hummassa (subscriber, #307) [Link]

>> ""If you choose to knowingly kill yourself - fine with me, but I want
>> you off any health insurance reimbursement system. Eat all the trans
>> fats and consume all the addictive drugs you please - try tobacco. But
>> don't cry later.""

> Fuck that. This sort of thing REALY pisses me off. I WORK for a living.
> I make a valueable contribution to sociaty and I get compinsated. I use
> the money I earn to buy health insurance.

I think the question here is (and I would like that you respond it with a
sound argument if you have one): I too work for a living, etc etc. WHY
should my health insurance cost the same as yours, if I do everything to
prevent health problems (including seriously limiting my intake of drugs,
amongst them white sugar, trans fat, alcohol and tobacco) and you don't???
You should be carrying the burden of your own style of living, not me.

> I am a grown person, work for a living, and it's not anybody else's
> business. It's NOT ANY OF YOUR BUSINESS.

The problem is: it IS my business if you are spending MY money on your
self-inflicted health problems.

A cost analysis of Vista content protection (just a bit off topic)

Posted Dec 25, 2006 14:03 UTC (Mon) by drag (subscriber, #31333) [Link]

There is absolutely no reason why your insurance should be the same as mine.

Why do you think it is? I realy realy doubt you pay the same as I do.

Go and find some insurance place that does physicals if you don't want to share your cost with unhealthy people.

""The problem is: it IS my business if you are spending MY money on your
self-inflicted health problems.""

It isn't your money.

A cost analysis of Vista content protection (just a bit off topic)

Posted Dec 26, 2006 13:02 UTC (Tue) by irios (guest, #19838) [Link]

I want your genome scanned for genetic imperfections which might cost other innocents a lot of money later.

Your attitude is so selfish, self-righteous, self-indulging, self-serving, and myopic that you deserve no answers at all. And all because one day you read an article about fat, and now you feel enlightened, and entitled to impose your supposedly informed opinions on others.

That attitude is why you have to pay an arm and a leg for a shitty health insurance, or else you may die sitting at the door of a hospital for all they care, while everybody in my much poorer country is protected by universal health coverage.

A cost analysis of Vista content protection (just a bit off topic)

Posted Dec 25, 2006 22:20 UTC (Mon) by bk (guest, #25617) [Link]

That's a common reaction from people who a) don't really understand what trans fats are, and b) don't really understand the details of the 'ban'.

Banning trans fats will have absolutely zero effect on your ability to eat unhealthily if you so desire. You can be obese/overweight (and develop all the related health complications) to your heart's content. Restaurants will still have the option of frying everything in lard, butter, coconut oil and just about anything else.

What the ban *does* do is prevent establishments (almost entirely national fast-food franchises) from making the economic decision to use products that are cheaper but endanger the health of consumers. Trans fats are artificial (ie, they don't exist in nature) chemicals resulting from the hydrogenation of vegetable oil. Such restaurants can continue to use slightly more expensive products (such as lard) that are still quite unhealthy (don't worry, the 'health nut' agenda won't be forced on you) but don't have the overwhelmingly toxic effects of trans fats.

It also doesn't prevent you from going to a store and buying hydrogenated oils and using them at home. Of course there's no rational reason to do this (other than perhaps saving a penny or two by using Crisco instead of butter or animal fat) but it's still your option.

Nothing you will do will ever change anything.

Posted Jan 4, 2007 6:01 UTC (Thu) by xoddam (subscriber, #2322) [Link]

> Nothing you will do will ever change anything.

Right.

No public health program has ever changed anything.
No political campaign has ever changed anything.
No human being will ever achieve anything.

> One way or another they are just going to find another way to
> kill themselves off slowly.

And, of course, every time anyone ever gets sick it is entirely
their own fault and has nothing whatever to do with the public
sphere. No-one else has any hope of preventing it, and no-one
else will ever suffer as a result.

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