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Microsoft's document gambit moves ahead (ZDNet)

ZDNet follows the battle around the OpenDocument Format (ODF) and Microsoft Office Open XML document formats. "Jeff Kaplan, the founder and director of Open ePolicy Group, which advocates for the use of "open technologies" in government, said that governments are seizing upon Microsoft alternatives out of self-interest. "Governments are leading to move to ODF because they want control over data and to break their data lock-in. They see it as a matter of sovereignty, and they are uncomfortable with continued dependency on one company," Kaplan said. He added that the expected Ecma standard certification of Office Open XML will increase confusion in the marketplace."
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Microsoft told to talk to the hand

Posted Dec 7, 2006 20:46 UTC (Thu) by smitty_one_each (subscriber, #28989) [Link]

http://www.crn.com/sections/breakingnews/dailyarchives.jh...

>In disclosing IBM's no vote, Bob Sutor, vice president for open source and standards for the Armonk, N.Y., company, said in his blog that OpenDocument is "vastly superior" to Open XML, and is what the industry needs to drive competition and lower costs to customers.

Props to Big Blue

Microsoft's document gambit moves ahead (ZDNet)

Posted Dec 8, 2006 0:04 UTC (Fri) by azhrei_fje (guest, #26148) [Link]

What surprises me the most is that MS's OpenXML format could win any kind of mindshare in the first place.

From what I've seen of the format, it consists of a bunch of presentation-based XML tags (such as which pieces of the document to embolden, italicize, and so on) and not content-based tags (such as which style to use or which text is the result of a mail-merge operation).

I guess I'm just old-fashioned, since I think XML should be used to describe the data and not describe the presentation. But that's probably just me. :)

Microsoft's document gambit moves ahead (ZDNet)

Posted Dec 8, 2006 0:42 UTC (Fri) by bronson (subscriber, #4806) [Link]

Why on earth would Novell devote valuable engineer time to OpenXML? Hopefully they can put out another FAQ to explain just what it is they're thinking.

Microsoft's document gambit moves ahead (ZDNet)

Posted Dec 8, 2006 1:45 UTC (Fri) by njs (subscriber, #40338) [Link]

I'm not familiar with the details of this whole OpenXML thing,
and I know there's significant suspicion about Novell's aims
or judgement after their buddying up to MS, but... can someone
explain how this is different from spending time supporting
the existing .doc format? Getting .doc support into free
word processors took a long time, but it was a huge benefit,
because many people could not switch away from MS without an
something interoperable to switch to. If MS is switching to
OpenXML, we _have_ to follow at least far enough to have
import/export filters, no?

Microsoft's document gambit moves ahead (ZDNet)

Posted Dec 8, 2006 8:44 UTC (Fri) by HenrikH (guest, #31152) [Link]

Because we want to kill OpenXML before it goes mainstream? Supporting .doc was essential for people to even consider OOo, but now we want to push ODF instead of having to live with yet another .doc (OpenXML) format.

Microsoft's document gambit moves ahead (ZDNet)

Posted Dec 10, 2006 7:55 UTC (Sun) by eklitzke (subscriber, #36426) [Link]

Writing code to support OpenXML will do very little to help or hinder attempts so kill OpemXML. Frankly, I'd rather have the option of being able to view OpenXML documents soon after Word starts using them, because I am in a position where I will need to be able to open them.

Microsoft's document gambit moves ahead (ZDNet)

Posted Dec 8, 2006 12:54 UTC (Fri) by pointwood (subscriber, #2814) [Link]

My guess is that it is because OpenXML is going to be used quite a
bit whether we like it or not.

Microsoft's document gambit moves ahead (ZDNet)

Posted Dec 8, 2006 14:19 UTC (Fri) by boudewijn (subscriber, #14185) [Link]

About 150 man years of engineer time, according to Microsoft's Mac
business unit:
http://blogs.adobe.com/shebanation/2006/12/open_xml_one-w....

As
Thomas Zander, the KWord maintainer says in his blog
(http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2568), the familiarity of the
situation is awful: "What happens if the MS format becomes an official
standard? Then all office suites that want to support it will spent the
next years spending time writing and testing their import filters. That
may give you a familiar feeling since that's what many office software
has been forced to do for the last half a dozen years or so. Following
Microsoft instead of honest innovation."

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