Oracle's Larry Ellison on Linux
(covered by TechWeb). "Our database operates on clusters of low-cost
Linux machines. We've bet extremely heavily on Linux. We think Linux is a
winner. If it's not, it's a bit of a problem for us. If it is, it's a huge
win for us. ... In 25 years at Oracle, I've never seen movement like this
toward an operating system. I've never seen anything with this much
uptake. We're seeing Linux absolutely go over the moon."
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Posted Jan 27, 2003 19:22 UTC (Mon) by rknop (guest, #66)
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You go Larry.
He'll go right on cheering until he realizes that Linux:Windows::PostgreSQL:Oracle
Then he'll start weeping.
-Rob
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Posted Jan 27, 2003 20:47 UTC (Mon) by Peter (guest, #1127)
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He'll go right on cheering until he realizes that Linux:Windows::PostgreSQL:Oracle
Then he'll start weeping.
Aye, but what choice does he have? If Oracle had ignored Linux, and it turned out to be the next big thing, then people wanting to deploy Linux would be forced to evaluate PostgreSQL. (Well, that and DB2.) And I think that's the last thing Oracle wants. Customers might find out their installation is way over-featured (and correspondingly over-priced) for what they actually need.
No doubt, there are features you can't get for free. But I think a lot of big iron DB customers don't actually need these features. (Yeah, I know I sound like a MySQL apologist.)
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Posted Jan 30, 2003 16:33 UTC (Thu) by leandro (subscriber, #1460)
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> what choice does he have?
GNU GPL'ing Oracle.
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Posted Jan 31, 2003 3:43 UTC (Fri) by liamh (subscriber, #4872)
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"bet extremely heavily on Linux" Really? Then why does it cost $850 to get an ODBC driver for Oracle on Linux, instead of nothing for the ODBC driver for Oracle on another OS?
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Posted Feb 7, 2003 0:49 UTC (Fri) by srnm (guest, #9492)
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"Our database operates on clusters" means that Oracle is providing capabilities that are unavailable on ANY other database free or commercial.
They have the ability to scale the database simply by plugging a box into the cluster. They have a shared disk/shared cache architecture which gives them near linear scalability. DB2 clustering (IIRC) is shared nothing and requires that you partition your dataset and have each box.
If you need the scalability that Oracle provides it is worth the money. It also happens to be tres cool technology.
PostgresSQL and MySQL are great for what they do but do not even come close on many of the features that Oracle people depend upon - data warehousing support, hot backup and many others.
There are many intelligent and otherwise thrifty people who pay for Oracle.
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Posted Feb 7, 2003 1:25 UTC (Fri) by srnm (guest, #9492)
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(sorry - I should have previewed)
"and have each box" work on a separate partition. This makes things much more difficult for the user/software developer. Also, this comment applies only to the non-mainframe version of DB2. The mainframe version does what Oracle does, and probably does it better, for many more $. That is the point - Oracle is the cluster leader on commodity hardware.
"There are many intelligent and otherwise thrifty people who pay for Oracle." - There are also many people who could have saved a bundle by going with something more appropriate to their needs.