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More than a toy, PlayStation 3 does Linux (InfoWorld)

More than a toy, PlayStation 3 does Linux (InfoWorld)

Posted Nov 22, 2006 20:03 UTC (Wed) by pbardet (guest, #22762)
In reply to: More than a toy, PlayStation 3 does Linux (InfoWorld) by hildeb
Parent article: More than a toy, PlayStation 3 does Linux (InfoWorld)

Maybe because Ubuntu doesn't need publicity to get used ;-)


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More than a toy, PlayStation 3 does Linux (InfoWorld)

Posted Nov 22, 2006 21:15 UTC (Wed) by drag (subscriber, #31333) [Link]

Probably because FC is more cutting edge.

Also because Fedora Core is IBM's platform of choice when it comes to developing for the Cell proccessor. Their CBE SDK is for FC. Barcalona supercomputing people have Fedora core builds they are using on their cell supercomputers (which you can download). etc etc.

It's quite a happenning thing.

While this is going on you have Ubuntu wanting to drop support for PowerPC. So go figure.

Their CBE SDK:
http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/power/cell/

Also comes with a good cell emulator for Fedora Core so you can get your taste of PS3 before having to go and buy one.

The FC image for 3.x Cell blades.
http://www.bsc.es/projects/deepcomputing/linuxoncell/

Also if your a developer curious about it here is a nice page on the subject of programming for CBE.
http://www.cellperformance.com/articles/

It's mostly run by what looks like game programmers and it uses C code and GCC for their examples and such.

More than a toy, PlayStation 3 does Linux (InfoWorld)

Posted Nov 22, 2006 21:31 UTC (Wed) by richo123 (guest, #24309) [Link]

"Probably because FC is more cutting edge."

That is a rather big and dubious statement. You FC fanboys don't have "Upstart" Scott Remnant or "Telepathy" Daniel Holbach. So nahnahnah!

More than a toy, PlayStation 3 does Linux (InfoWorld)

Posted Nov 22, 2006 22:08 UTC (Wed) by eklitzke (subscriber, #36426) [Link]

I'm not sure if you're joking or not... Redhat certainly employs more Linux developers than Canonical, especially kernel developers and developers for enterprise apps. Fedora also has much better Xen support than Ubuntu, and SELinux to boot.

Not that Ubuntu doesn't have better functionality/developers in certain areas... it's just that generally Redhat has more developers and includes a lot of bleeding edge software before other distros, including Ubuntu.

More than a toy, PlayStation 3 does Linux (InfoWorld)

Posted Nov 22, 2006 23:32 UTC (Wed) by job (subscriber, #670) [Link]

Also Red Hat keeps staying true to free/open source software.

More than a toy, PlayStation 3 does Linux (InfoWorld)

Posted Nov 23, 2006 20:29 UTC (Thu) by anselm (subscriber, #2796) [Link]

Fedora also has much better Xen support than Ubuntu, and SELinux to boot.

And this is, presumably, exactly the functionality you can't do without when you look to run Linux on your PlayStation 3 ...

More than a toy, PlayStation 3 does Linux (InfoWorld)

Posted Nov 23, 2006 22:27 UTC (Thu) by thebluesgnr (guest, #37963) [Link]

Red Hat contributes so much compared to Canonical that you can't even make a comparison.

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RedHatContributions

More than a toy, PlayStation 3 does Linux (InfoWorld)

Posted Nov 23, 2006 23:42 UTC (Thu) by bronson (subscriber, #4806) [Link]

Is there any chance both the Ubuntu and the Red Hat/Fedora fanboys might simmer down a bit? These comparisons are growing tiring. Almost makes me wistful for the Gentoo fanboys...

More than a toy, PlayStation 3 does Linux (InfoWorld)

Posted Nov 23, 2006 23:57 UTC (Thu) by anselm (subscriber, #2796) [Link]

Is there any chance both the Ubuntu and the Red Hat/Fedora fanboys might simmer down a bit?

(I'm neither the one nor the other -- I run Debian on all my machines.)

My point was that arguing for Fedora on the PlayStation 3 in favour of Ubuntu because Fedora comes with SELinux and better Xen support looks a bit ridiculous, since few people are likely to deploy a PlayStation 3 (of all machines) in a context where these features are required. As far as the ongoing dispute between Ubuntu and Fedora is concerned, whoever owns one of those PlayStations can install Yggdrasil Linux on it for all I care.

More than a toy, PlayStation 3 does Linux (InfoWorld)

Posted Nov 22, 2006 23:31 UTC (Wed) by drag (subscriber, #31333) [Link]

Ya need to cut down on the caffiene, maybe?

I am not a 'Fedora Fanboy'. I am actually a Debian fanatic.

When Ubuntu begins working on stuff similar to GCC development, kernel development, Stateless linux, Selinux, GFS and related clustering technology, ldap directory systems and other such stuff then get back to me about Ubuntu being cutting edge.

This isn't Ubunt vs Fedora or any such stupid thing. I don't use either. I am just explaining why IBM would choose to use Fedora as the OS of choice for their SDK and other things.

Ubuntu does good things that nobody else has been able to do. Such as setting up a good support infrastructure for new users to Linux. That is not insignificant.

More than a toy, PlayStation 3 does Linux (InfoWorld)

Posted Nov 23, 2006 21:16 UTC (Thu) by rvfh (subscriber, #31018) [Link]

Just for completeness, I have to say that Gentoo's wiki is a mine of very good information, too. In fact, Gentoo is the first distro one would expect on bleeding edge products, no?

More than a toy, PlayStation 3 does Linux (InfoWorld)

Posted Nov 25, 2006 2:46 UTC (Sat) by drag (subscriber, #31333) [Link]

I wouldn't be suprised if Gentoo people have a working PS3 version right now that is in beta state.

More than a toy, PlayStation 3 does Linux (InfoWorld)

Posted Nov 25, 2006 18:24 UTC (Sat) by Zenith (subscriber, #24899) [Link]

They already have one developer working on it. Progress can be tracked here.

More than a toy, PlayStation 3 does Linux (InfoWorld)

Posted Nov 24, 2006 15:22 UTC (Fri) by rvfh (subscriber, #31018) [Link]

While this is going on you have Ubuntu wanting to drop support for PowerPC. So go figure.

Note that Cell processors are 64-bit PowerPC-based, whereas Ubuntu is thinking in not supporting the 32-bit PowerPC architecture anymore.

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