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Various responses to Microsoft/NovellVarious responses to Microsoft/NovellPosted Nov 5, 2006 2:21 UTC (Sun) by dskoll (subscriber, #1630)In reply to: Various responses to Microsoft/Novell by gravious Parent article: Various responses to Microsoft/Novell
Or do we suddenly live in a world where people are now automatically tainted by association? Novell made a deal with a convicted criminal monopolist that has called GPL-licensed software a "cancer". That's pretty tainting.
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Various responses to Microsoft/Novell Posted Nov 5, 2006 11:12 UTC (Sun) by The_Pirate (guest, #21740) [Link] IM(private)HO, anyone who starts doing buisness with Microsoft is certainly tainted. Badly.
The reason the letter from our LUG didn't contain specifics is, that a very, very large part of the world-wide community is taking great pains to explain, to the smallest detail, why they/we are unhappy with this.
Apart from that, yes, i think it's a very good idea to be specific with a complaint. Had it been the local shop going nuts, i would have told them what i thought and why.
Various responses to Microsoft/Novell Posted Nov 6, 2006 20:46 UTC (Mon) by gravious (subscriber, #7662) [Link] Look - with all respect - the thrust of my argument is that we should hold off calling Novell scum and such like. There are a lot of good people working for that company and whatever you think about the _corporates_ they are a substantial part of our community now. This was always going to happen if Linux became successful. I think we may charitably say that Novell better be cautious and that they were probably 'dumb' to make a deal with Microthingy. (I officially started hating them when the Halloween documents first came out. I'm old enough now not to need a lecture on monopolistic business practices and their ethical position vis-a-vis Linux). All I'm asking is for people to Novell some time to see how this plays out before striking out with the condemnations and melodrama.
Okay?
ps: yes, I think they were dumb.
Various responses to Microsoft/Novell Posted Nov 7, 2006 2:39 UTC (Tue) by dskoll (subscriber, #1630) [Link] ...we should hold off calling Novell scum... I never called Novell scum. Stupid, misguided, doomed maybe. Microsoft, however, is scum, so when Novell does a deal with Microsoft, then Novell is tainted by Microsoft's reputation. There are a lot of good people working for that company... There are a lot of good and bright people working for Microsoft, yet they consistently do underhanded things and produce crappy products. If the leadership is bad, then a company can be far worse than what you'd think it should be by looking at the low-level tech workers.
Various responses to Microsoft/Novell Posted Nov 28, 2006 22:46 UTC (Tue) by gravious (subscriber, #7662) [Link] Okay - we both believe Novell was almost certainly dumb/stupid and we both agree that Microsoft's de facto monopoly is a very bad thing(tm). Let me repeat - let's see how this pans out before saying "That's it, you're outta here". When it comes to it though, if Novell hurts the community then I say, sure torpedo away. Happy now?
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