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SuSE's deathSuSE's deathPosted Nov 3, 2006 18:58 UTC (Fri) by beoba (guest, #16942)In reply to: SuSE's death by rvfh Parent article: Various responses to Microsoft/Novell
Not to be a jerk, but why comment on Novell's influence on SuSE if you haven't used it since Novell bought it? (or am I misunderstanding your last sentence?) I haven't used it, so I don't have any strong opinions about it in either direction.
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SuSE's death Posted Nov 3, 2006 19:17 UTC (Fri) by drag (subscriber, #31333) [Link] When people say stuff like 'give back suse it's soul'.. they realy mean 'get rid of Gnome and go back to KDE'.
As far as I am concerned Novell was a good thing for Suse.
For instance they open sourced YAST. (which unfortunately was too late to save it in terms of more widespread usage)
SuSE's death Posted Nov 3, 2006 21:43 UTC (Fri) by rvfh (subscriber, #31018) [Link] Yes, that's exactly what I meant: SuSE and KDE always were like the two fingers of the hand :-) Putting Gnome as default on SuSE feels like if Ubuntu was changing to KDE and creating a new Gubuntu project for Gnome users. It would lose its soul IMO (and that's from a Kubuntu user!).
Since when is Gnome default? Posted Nov 6, 2006 9:02 UTC (Mon) by niner (subscriber, #26151) [Link] I wonder where you have that "Gnome is default" stuff from? Because it's definitely untrue. SUSE 10.1 gives you the choice when installing and neither KDE, nor Gnome is preselected. The choices are equal. And this doesn't change with 10.2 AFAIK.
Yes, it's true, that there are now mono- (and thus gtk2) based administration programs like the software updater and the compiz configuration. But for both of them the next version will have KDE-based replacements. And the new software updater looks really nice.
Sometimes it really is better to build your own opinion and see first hand. Which ain't really difficult with everything being available for free and such.
Since when is Gnome default? Posted Nov 6, 2006 11:14 UTC (Mon) by alonso (subscriber, #2828) [Link] They do that and then rethink about the decision. And I think that the default destop for SLED is gnome.
SuSE's death Posted Nov 4, 2006 2:25 UTC (Sat) by heise2k (guest, #41269) [Link] Yes. I have liked SuSE since a long time, and was sad when Novell boughtthem. I did like the strong KDE relationship and more European flavour of the German SuSE. To be fair openSUSE has had good KDE support, but all that mono garbage like beagle and the zmd/redcarpet crap that needs to be disabled is horrible. Gnome is cute, and part of me kind of wants to like it, but it is so hard to do real things with. Maybe some people like less functionality, less options, less interoperability, less performance, etc.
YAST is cool, but the new updater sucks; hard. I have taken to using smart
I am still hoping things don't turn out as bad as I and many others think
-Bob
SuSE's death Posted Nov 3, 2006 21:58 UTC (Fri) by rvfh (subscriber, #31018) [Link] Sorry if I was unclear in my previous post; I was not commenting about user experience, only decisions taken by Novell for SuSE, which are public and reported in this wonderful news site. I suppose I am not the only one to be of the opinion that Novell killed SuSE's soul, having read about a number of ex-SuSE managers leaving after the 'merge'...
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