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Firefox 2.0 available
Posted Oct 25, 2006 3:57 UTC (Wed) by songbd (guest, #21901)
Posted Oct 25, 2006 7:13 UTC (Wed) by HenrikH (guest, #31152)
Posted Oct 25, 2006 12:10 UTC (Wed) by djabsolut (guest, #12799)
Posted Oct 25, 2006 10:09 UTC (Wed) by job (guest, #670)
Posted Oct 25, 2006 10:56 UTC (Wed) by job (guest, #670)
Posted Oct 25, 2006 10:57 UTC (Wed) by smitty_one_each (subscriber, #28989)
Posted Oct 25, 2006 14:10 UTC (Wed) by ajross (subscriber, #4563)
Also, forcing the user to find and click a button when a keyboard accelerator exists for the same task is only a mild usability problem. Having a button detached from the thing it is acting on, however, is actually a fairly serious one. I haven't done testing, obviously, but I'm willing to bet that novice users routinely failed to understand what that close button was doing at the right side of the window. Putting the button on the tab removes all ambiguity.
And no one else has mentioned it, but note that the close button has been replaced with a drop-down list of all the tabs in the window. This is a great example of a simple addition that greatly improves usability for people like me with zillions of tabs open.
Posted Oct 25, 2006 14:49 UTC (Wed) by zooko (subscriber, #2589)
Posted Oct 25, 2006 22:05 UTC (Wed) by job (guest, #670)
Having the close buttons on the tabs has other usability issues. It is very easy to close a tab my mistake instead of selecting it, especially when you have many tabs open. It's also not very good that the buttons move as the tabs change their width. I guess they had a reason why they changed to having a fixed button position before.
I'm not against change in itself, but changing and then changing back seems a bit unmotivated.
Posted Oct 25, 2006 11:43 UTC (Wed) by mattdm (subscriber, #18)
The thing that bothers me with tabs in 2.0 is that when you have a bunch open, and middle-click a link to open a new one in the background, it appears off-screen and you have to scroll over to get it.
Posted Oct 25, 2006 12:34 UTC (Wed) by proski (subscriber, #104)
Posted Oct 25, 2006 13:00 UTC (Wed) by chaneau (subscriber, #6674)
Posted Oct 25, 2006 16:06 UTC (Wed) by iabervon (subscriber, #722)
Posted Oct 25, 2006 18:43 UTC (Wed) by jsavage (guest, #7299)
Scroll down to "browser.tabs.closeButtons" and change the value from 1 to 3.
Posted Oct 25, 2006 22:08 UTC (Wed) by job (guest, #670)
(Thanks, by the way, it was appreciated!)
Posted Oct 26, 2006 1:51 UTC (Thu) by dlang (✭ supporter ✭, #313)
however, if you hadn't posted this, how could I have found out the meaning of these different values? (other then wadeing into the source)
Posted Oct 26, 2006 8:05 UTC (Thu) by job (guest, #670)
Posted Oct 26, 2006 15:23 UTC (Thu) by kbob (guest, #1770)
Posted Oct 26, 2006 16:47 UTC (Thu) by TwoTimeGrime (guest, #11688)
I know what you mean. It's like when window managers started putting close buttons on the windows that they close. I was really confused when that happened. It just didn't make any sense to attach a button to the object that the button would affect.
> I think there was a reason so many other projects copied Firefox design
> with one close button in a fixed location.
I think the reason is that most projects don't have people who are well versed in, or care about, usability. They end up copying an example implementation from a high-profile program.
Posted Oct 28, 2006 18:55 UTC (Sat) by h2 (guest, #27965)
While I know that this tendency will reverse in time, in the meanwhile I have to do increasingly arcane research to find out how to restore functionalities that the ff developers have removed visible gui controls for.
Then, while chiming in on how great the new FF useability is from one side of the mouth, the other side speaks: well, you just type in this obscure about:config command, or change line x or y of some buried js config file...
Useability is more than just picking what works for a certain type of average user.
I'm hoping that the firefox devs will at some point in the future relearn the joys of 'Advanced' options. Keeping the surface level configuration choices very simple is something that clearly is a good thing, but pulling out more and more configurations and forcing me to learn more and more obscure commands to fix the latest defaults is about as far from my idea as useability as it gets I'm sorry to say.
These problems, by the way, are becoming increasingly noticeable on the GTK based Linux FF.
While I still consider the core Gecko engine to be probably the best out there, the wrapper for it is currently only salvaged by the great work of all those extension developers who are willing to spend their time restoring core functionalities [while I haven't checked out ff 2 yet, is it actually true that 3rd party cookie blocking is now removed as an option?]
Where did "load images from originating site only" go?
Posted Oct 25, 2006 11:20 UTC (Wed) by garkier (subscriber, #5427)
And I need to go into about:config to make animated images only spin once...
Did they take a bribe from doubleclik or what? :)
Now it seems I need to find out the current state of privoxy ...
Posted Oct 25, 2006 12:07 UTC (Wed) by djabsolut (guest, #12799)
Posted Oct 25, 2006 12:45 UTC (Wed) by cpm (guest, #3554)
It's about as stable as any other neurotic.
Posted Oct 25, 2006 18:58 UTC (Wed) by einstein (subscriber, #2052)
Posted Oct 26, 2006 11:21 UTC (Thu) by cpm (guest, #3554)
Posted Oct 25, 2006 14:39 UTC (Wed) by yodermk (subscriber, #3803)
I do have one *major* gripe though. They moved the Connection Settings dialog (where you configure proxies) from the General tab in Preferences to the Advanced tab, then the Network sub-tab. That's insane. There's nothing "advanced" about proxy settings -- they are simply necessary for some networks. I find myself changing them a lot and talking other people through changing them.
Posted Oct 26, 2006 7:05 UTC (Thu) by jamesh (guest, #1159)
Posted Oct 25, 2006 16:09 UTC (Wed) by mikov (subscriber, #33179)
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