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free market is not the answerfree market is not the answerPosted Oct 18, 2006 12:42 UTC (Wed) by man_ls (subscriber, #15091)In reply to: safety-critical systems can use ROM by smitty_one_each Parent article: FSF should separate GPLv3 changes (Linux.com) The free market has already spoken: use Windows, forget about Linux. Join AOL. iPod rules. Do you really want to leave your decisions to the market?
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free market is not the answer Posted Oct 18, 2006 17:25 UTC (Wed) by smitty_one_each (subscriber, #28989) [Link] Your reply doesn't seem to take into account the increasing success of FOSS, and companies built upon it.AOL is TU. iPod rules what? I'm not arguing blind faith in the market; it is certainly subject to manipulation. However, over time, the court of public opinion, as expressed in the market, tends towards reasonableness.
free market is not the answer Posted Oct 18, 2006 22:14 UTC (Wed) by man_ls (subscriber, #15091) [Link] Yeah, the court of public opinion has chosen Windows, iPod (73% market share) and AOL (19% market share, #1 ISP with difference). Have you bought your copy of Oracle yet?Your reply doesn't seem to take into account the increasing success of FOSS, and companies built upon it.Yeah right. The most visible "FOSS" (what a horrible acronym), i.e. libre program is probably Firefox, and the most extended; it has been competing with Internet Explorer for ages, it is free (as in beer) as the competition, but also libre, there is a buoyant company behind it and it is the direct descendant of Netscape which in 1994 was the only reasonable choice. And IE has had the most horrible track record in performance, bugs and security that you can imagine; as to marketing Microsoft is now a convicted monopolist because of it. Yet last month our "FOSS" champion had 11 or 12% market share, depending on who you believe. Great success in the "court of public opinion". Reasonableness indeed. The free market is an economic mechanism, which must be nurtured and kept within bounds constantly through regulation. Its effect is to lower prices and improve efficiency. It doesn't choose technologies or morals; it just goes with the cheapest option. When two $0 options meet, convenience seems to win every time. Let's stop attributing human qualities to an economic phenomenon, please. We might try to make something other than money drive us for a change.
free market is not the answer Posted Oct 19, 2006 13:51 UTC (Thu) by smitty_one_each (subscriber, #28989) [Link] >Let's stop attributing human qualities to an economic phenomenon, please. We might try to make something other than money drive us for a change.
Fair enough, but I have some difficulty with trying to view economic phenomena as pure abstraction: economics is a derivative of human behavior, subject to all of the usual chaotic influences. How does one _not_ anthropomorphize a fundamentally anthropomorphic thing?
I do agree, on a personal level, that "something other than money" would make a great driver. Externalizing my own non-monetary motives would probably bring in howls of derisive laughter, however. Money, OTOH, is the low-common-denominator metric that everyone at leasts understands, possibly without liking. Abstract motives attenuate rapidly; cold, hard cash drives far more people.
If you step back and look at the last couple of decades from a distance, FOSS has gone from nowhere to at least somewhere, and its adoption has a positive slope. Proprietary stuff, OTOH, is growing increasingly painful on all levels. I'll venture a guess that Vista proves to be the last OS excreted by Redmond.
Give it a couple of decades. Future so bright, we gotta wear cheap sunglasses.
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