Fedora Core 6 slips one more time again (Oct. 24th) [LWN.net]

Fedora Core 6 slips one more time again (Oct. 24th)

Posted Oct 18, 2006 0:24 UTC (Wed) by dowdle (subscriber, #659)
Parent article: Fedora Core 6 slips one more time

[email from Jesse Keating today]

Hi, its me again, remember me? I was the guy who told you we would probably release on Thursday of this week. Yeah, about that...

Bugs suck. More bugs suck more. I'd rather go DOWN in bug count with the
trees we spin than up, so after some regressions popped up, we're going to
respin again and push the release out until next Tuesday, the 24th. This
will ensure we finish playing whack-a-mole with the tree and we give the
mirrors a fighting chance at getting synced up before we open the flood
gates.

In the interest of full disclosure (like you couldn't read rawhide report from tomorrow...) the following bugs popped up / were noticed / were introduced / were fixed due to extra time / and have been fixed (hopefully) with the tree I'm spinning, and rawhide that will land tomorrow.

211097: latest rawhide kernel broke xenguest-install / virt-manager
211117: Anaconda traceback + forced reboot when file temporarily unavailable
211118: Unable to connect to xend with xen Dom0 kernel and xend running
209945: s-c-firewall creates unusable default for ipv6
203570: Starting X brings up a blank screen (for mga)
<nobug>: coolkey package %post errors
<nobug>: classpathx-mail multilib conflicts
<nobug>: fedora-release-notes css not optimal for some non-english languages
<nobug>: broken deps on x86_64 and ppc(64)

So, provided that we don't introduce any NEW bugs while fixing THOSE bugs, the tree should be golden as of tonight. We'll begin syncing once we've finished smoke testing the tree tomorrow (you can help too on rawhide!). There will also be a fair number of "0 day" updates for FC6, due to the amount of time that we've been frozen and not taking any updates. Many of these will go into updates-testing first, and some testing on those would be good, since they saw 0 rawhide time.

That is all, I now return you to your regularly scheduled mortgage and lottery
spam.

--
Jesse Keating
Release Engineer: Fedora

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Fedora Core 6 slips one more time again (Oct. 24th)

Posted Oct 18, 2006 1:32 UTC (Wed) by djabsolut (guest, #12799) [Link]

There will also be a fair number of "0 day" updates for FC6, due to the amount of time that we've been frozen and not taking any updates.

Then why on earth release FC6 in its current state ? If Fedora is to be perceived as "not a beta for RHEL", it would be logical to include the "fair number of" updates into a Release Candidate, wait until things cool down, then release the bloody thing.

Fedora Core 6 slips one more time again (Oct. 24th)

Posted Oct 18, 2006 3:31 UTC (Wed) by davej (subscriber, #354) [Link]

Because they aren't release critical (ie, bugs that would prevent a user from installing & downloading updates[*]).

No release is ever perfect, and there will always be updates available on day of release. If we held up the release until everything was perfect, we'd never ship anything.

This isn't even just a Fedora phenomenon. Every distro has similar release criteria which much be met before it's deemed shippable.

[*] Even those sometimes get left behind. We make best effort, but there's always a handful of machines that won't install and need to wait until the next release, or install the previous release & yum update, or wait for a fedoraunity.org respin.