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Fedora Core 6 slips one more time
Over the weekend we ran into a few more bugs with Fedora Core 6 that we decided were important enough to fix. There were some multilib compose issues (wrong packages landing in the wrong dirs), some translation files that would cause tracebacks in things like anaconda (whoops), and a fedora-release package that forgot to enable updates (double whoops). For these reasons and a few others, we decided to respin the release candidate tree and push the release date out another couple of days. The current plan is to spin a release candidate this evening with some last minute fixes, and start the sync. Validation has gone very well up to this point and baring any blow ups in the spin process, the release looks very solid. We're planning to release on Thursday Oct 19th. This should give the mirrors enough days to sync up. If things blow up horribly and we have to spin again tomorrow, depending on what time we have to respin we may slip until next week, as releasing on Fridays or Mondays gets you the wrath of the mirror admins (: I want to thank you all for playing along and helping us to make FC6 the best release yet! -- Jesse Keating Release Engineer: Fedora -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list (Log in to post comments)
Hooray for slips! Posted Oct 17, 2006 14:50 UTC (Tue) by dwheeler (guest, #1216) [Link] I'm GLAD they are doing this. I'd rather have it slip a few days than have horrendous problems on release.
Crashes in Anaconda Posted Oct 17, 2006 15:14 UTC (Tue) by proski (subscriber, #104) [Link] The prerelease DVD was terrible. Anaconda crashed consistently when I set up the IP explicitly and attempted to enable "software development" packages. For some reason, Anaconda decided to enable the network at that point (why?) and hit an unresolved function.I had to choose the default installation and dhcp configuration just to install FC6 somehow. Anaconda developers should use a python code checker. It's such a pain when the installer breaks, and it's so hard to fix it when it's on a DVD, and perhaps inside some ramdisk image. Generally, when something breaks, the developers should be thinking not only "how to fix it", but also "how to prevent this in the future". By the way, those with fat pipes should test the today's respin. I guess we'll see it on http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/
NIC up during install? Posted Oct 17, 2006 15:23 UTC (Tue) by dowdle (subscriber, #659) [Link] Since they added the ability to add third party repos during the install... I'm guessing that is why they chose to get the NIC going.
Fedora Core 6 slips one more time again (Oct. 24th) Posted Oct 18, 2006 0:24 UTC (Wed) by dowdle (subscriber, #659) [Link] [email from Jesse Keating today]
Hi, its me again, remember me? I was the guy who told you we would probably release on Thursday of this week. Yeah, about that...
Bugs suck. More bugs suck more. I'd rather go DOWN in bug count with the
In the interest of full disclosure (like you couldn't read rawhide report from tomorrow...) the following bugs popped up / were noticed / were introduced / were fixed due to extra time / and have been fixed (hopefully) with the tree I'm spinning, and rawhide that will land tomorrow.
211097: latest rawhide kernel broke xenguest-install / virt-manager
So, provided that we don't introduce any NEW bugs while fixing THOSE bugs, the tree should be golden as of tonight. We'll begin syncing once we've finished smoke testing the tree tomorrow (you can help too on rawhide!). There will also be a fair number of "0 day" updates for FC6, due to the amount of time that we've been frozen and not taking any updates. Many of these will go into updates-testing first, and some testing on those would be good, since they saw 0 rawhide time.
That is all, I now return you to your regularly scheduled mortgage and lottery
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Fedora Core 6 slips one more time again (Oct. 24th) Posted Oct 18, 2006 1:32 UTC (Wed) by djabsolut (guest, #12799) [Link] There will also be a fair number of "0 day" updates for FC6, due to the amount of time that we've been frozen and not taking any updates.Then why on earth release FC6 in its current state ? If Fedora is to be perceived as "not a beta for RHEL", it would be logical to include the "fair number of" updates into a Release Candidate, wait until things cool down, then release the bloody thing.
Fedora Core 6 slips one more time again (Oct. 24th) Posted Oct 18, 2006 3:31 UTC (Wed) by davej (guest, #354) [Link] Because they aren't release critical (ie, bugs that would prevent a user from installing & downloading updates[*]).
No release is ever perfect, and there will always be updates available on day of release. If we held up the release until everything was perfect, we'd never ship anything.
This isn't even just a Fedora phenomenon. Every distro has similar release criteria which much be met before it's deemed shippable.
[*] Even those sometimes get left behind. We make best effort, but there's always a handful of machines that won't install and need to wait until the next release, or install the previous release & yum update, or wait for a fedoraunity.org respin.
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