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Cherry-pickedCherry-pickedPosted Oct 6, 2006 23:00 UTC (Fri) by man_ls (subscriber, #15091)In reply to: "Ours is Ours, Yours is Yours" is gone from the GPLv3 ... by sepreece Parent article: Similar in spirit?
The vast majority of the people I know, aside from those in software jobs, would be completely happy to have hardware that ran only software signed by some trusted authority, if in return they didn't have to worry about viruses and other attacks.I like this one. Let me use a counter-example: I own a PSP. The vast majority of the people I know, including those in software jobs, have chosen a PSP because it can be cracked to run software not signed from a trusted authority. They don't give a damn about viruses and other attacks; they want to run:
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Cherry-picked Posted Oct 8, 2006 1:34 UTC (Sun) by sepreece (subscriber, #19270) [Link] Perhaps we travel in different circles. I do know a few young people who do use PSPs, as you describe, for things the manufacturer did not authorize. However, they are a small minority of the people I know. The ones who are older than, say, 35, would mostly REALLY like to not have to worry about malware coming with their e-mail or from visiting poorly chosen websites. And they're mostly Windows users, because it's the path of least resistance.
I'm not saying that's good, nor am I saying I disapprove of the kids using cracks on their PSPs. My statement was just about the general public.
Cherry-picked Posted Oct 8, 2006 2:46 UTC (Sun) by man_ls (subscriber, #15091) [Link] Maybe we could temporarily conclude that people over 35 choose security over freedom. And that people over 35 are the majority of people in occidental societies (so that "the general public" is mostly composed of people over 35). A tentative reason could be that people over 35 have more money than desire of freedom, at least those in your circle.Certainly people in my circle prefer to crack their PSP's than pay 60 per game; and prefer to play DivX movies of random sizes than convert everything to MPEG4 320x240 -- or pay for Sony's absurd multimedia kit. Even people over 35. So yes, we must travel in different circles. If you don't live around the metropolitan area of Madrid, Spain, Europe, then we indeed travel in different circles. So your original statement: Note that the great mass of people have repeatedly shown themselve to be eager to trade rights that they have no desire to exercise for increased security.is void, at least in the great picture. Luckily, I would add. We might change it to read "most US people over 35", but it would lose some weight. We could also conclude that those "rights that they have no desire to exercise" change depending on your age and country of origin, with the same overall effect. Your statement doesn't add much to the discussion apart from giving weight to the quote attributed to Benjamin Franklin: Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
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