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Similar in spirit?Similar in spirit?Posted Oct 5, 2006 7:32 UTC (Thu) by k8to (subscriber, #15413)In reply to: Similar in spirit? by Sombrio Parent article: Similar in spirit?
The initial statement was that locked-down systems can be a problem. Your hijack of this thread can be fairly described as trolling, by pulling it into a discussion of a particular type of locked-down system which is a hot-button toopic at the moment, and a particular set of issues and attitudes surrounding that type of locked-down system.
The debate about the issues surrounding DRM systems does have to occur in the open/free communities, but your narrow presentation and slicing don't help. You may not be a troll by intention, but you have achieved trolling by result.
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Similar in spirit? Posted Oct 5, 2006 9:27 UTC (Thu) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link] I'm impressed by the reasoning at the end: don't respond to the arguments, just complain about unfairness and say you're going to pick up your toys and go home.
If that's 'professionalism', I'll take the free software community. I prefer amateurs anyway: they have more enthusiasm (and more competence).
Similar in spirit? Posted Oct 5, 2006 14:47 UTC (Thu) by sepreece (subscriber, #19270) [Link] I think the corollary to Godwin's Law should be extended to include the use of the terms "FUD" and "troll", which never advance the discussion and are basically just uncivil...
Similar in spirit? Posted Oct 5, 2006 22:46 UTC (Thu) by man_ls (subscriber, #15091) [Link] So, what do you say to someone which is spreading FUD or is an obvious troll? Like this:Everyone I know does not believe in the DRM consipiracy theories either, so I am not alone.Ad populum. Or this: DRM is a problem manufactured by the FSFKill the messenger. Again in this: I for one, would like to know what percentage of people in the real world would consider DRM a problem.Ad populum again. Or even worse, this: There is nothing wrong with DRM.Blanket statement. And this? A manufacturer has every right to incorporate any kind of technology into his device and offer it for sale, as long as it does not break any laws.Excusation non petita, accusatio manifesta. Finally this: But, do not characterize legitimate, law abiding, job providing, and upstanding members of our society as evil abusers of rights that you do not have.Appeal to emotion. I'd say the message is a troll, even if the person is a cartesian thinker.
Similar in spirit? Posted Oct 6, 2006 1:56 UTC (Fri) by sepreece (subscriber, #19270) [Link] If you think someone has raised an irrlevant argument, ignore it. Or explain why it's worthless. Or just say it's a worthless argument.
I just see way too many posts in way too many threads where "FUD" and "troll" are used to mean "You disagree with me." The particular example where it was applied to Sombrio felt to me like such an example.
Similar in spirit? Posted Oct 6, 2006 8:39 UTC (Fri) by stijn (subscriber, #570) [Link] Agreed. The dissection in the grandparent post, now *that* carries weight.
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