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Forks /are/ part of the decision process.

Forks /are/ part of the decision process.

Posted Oct 2, 2006 12:58 UTC (Mon) by mingo (subscriber, #31122)
In reply to: Forks are not part of the decision process. by man_ls
Parent article: Busy busy busybox

The decision process of Linux is closed and ruled by the benevolent dictator Linus Torvalds

Wrong, as explained in my detailed reply further above. So per your logic the 2.6.18 kernel would not have something like priority inheritance today? (and if you reply then please reply to my post above, which gives the full context. Thanks.)


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Forks /are/ part of the decision process.

Posted Oct 2, 2006 13:13 UTC (Mon) by smitty_one_each (subscriber, #28989) [Link]

>Linus has no monopoly on Linux. You are free to fork Linux anytime.
But he does hold a copyright to the symbol "Linux", so you can't fork and call your shiny new kernel Linux.
He also is the sole, final committer to his/The Mainline Tree.
It's a "de facto monopoly", for all he manages it admirably.

Forks /are/ part of the decision process.

Posted Oct 2, 2006 13:26 UTC (Mon) by mingo (subscriber, #31122) [Link]

Linus has no monopoly on Linux. You are free to fork Linux anytime.

But he does hold a copyright to the symbol "Linux"

Wrong. Symbols like "Linux" cannot be copyrighted.

And as i said, i am maintaining my own fork of the Linux kernel.

(The word "Linux" can be trademarked and is trademarked in some countries, and Linus so far has never used any trademark power against a fork of the kernel. But it's not even an issue, you can run a simple script over the whole codebase and replace every occurance of "Linux" with "Lanux" or whatever. In fact the Hurd project uses quite a bit of Linux kernel code and so does Xen. It's perfectly legitimate.)

But you cannot do the same with the GPL, and you cannot fork the license together with the codebase attached to it. Only RMS has the huge, unprecedented legal power to do that. (as explained in detail in the posts above.)

Forks /are/ part of the decision process.

Posted Oct 2, 2006 15:20 UTC (Mon) by smitty_one_each (subscriber, #28989) [Link]

Yes, I meant trademark, sorry.

Forks /are/ part of the decision process.

Posted Oct 2, 2006 18:24 UTC (Mon) by Ross (subscriber, #4065) [Link]

You are talking about convincing Linus to add a feature. The equivalent would be convincing the FSF to change the terms in v3. They do have a process for that, but there is no guarantee you will change their mind. I don't see the distinction at all.

Forks /are/ part of the decision process.

Posted Oct 2, 2006 18:55 UTC (Mon) by smitty_one_each (subscriber, #28989) [Link]

>change the terms in v3. They do have a process for that

One of the contentions is that the process is superficial.
Possibly the FSF could show the first circulated drafts, and diffs against it, to show prove that there substantial community input has affected the draft. This might dampen the squaks in the peanut gallery.

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