Debian + Dunc-Tank.org = dissent [LWN.net]

Debian + Dunc-Tank.org = dissent

Posted Sep 28, 2006 6:20 UTC (Thu) by drag (subscriber, #31333)
Parent article: Debian + Dunc-Tank.org = dissent

""Therein comes the controversy. If the DPL is involved, doesn't that make it a Debian Project?""

Does the DPL having sex with somebody the same as Debian having sex with them?
Hell no. Even if he cries "Oh.. Debian!" towards the end.

Debian project may want him to more strongly distance the Dunc-Tank from Debian. Ask him to put more disclaimers, make it more obvious. IT'S VERY SIMPLE. I don't see how kicking him out of Debian will be required would make Dunc-Tank more obviously not Debian. The concept in itself requires a huge jump of illogic.

I don't even see a conflict of interest. At least not something that is horrible. Does he make any money from it? If you don't like how he runs his life don't vote for him next time.

""Can the DPL remain objective and unbiased while working on Debian and an organization.""

How many of us have lives outside of work? If I go to a bar should my boss be worried about how that reflects back on the company if a client accidently sees me there and I buy him a vodka?

Again. If you don't like how he runs his life, don't vote for him next time. This is not something that warrents kicking him out of Debian.

""Should Debian Developers be paid to do work on Debian?""

I thought a number of them already were. What about people that work on Ubuntu and contribute back to Debian? What about the people that work at Progeny and are Debian maintainers? What about the dozens of people that maintain a paticular package or do Debian stuff becuase it coincides with Debian usage at their job?

They are very much getting paid to work on Debian. At least partially. They may do it on their own, but why not should they get money?

If a user paypalls a developer money as thanks for fixing a bug in package does that developer have to worried about other Debian maintainers finding out about it?

Paying Debian developers is a GOOD thing, IMO.

Do people think that Linux kernel developers shouldn't get paid?

The whole thing is just realy stupid. IMO it is people attempting to hijack Debian over stupid politics. Debian is about to pull of one of the most important successes it has ever done: GET A RELEASE OUT ON TIME for the first time ever. And people are entirely willing to blow the entire thing out of the water because they have a stick up their ass.

They should be ashamed of themselves.

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Should Debian Developers be paid to do work on Debian?

Posted Sep 28, 2006 15:48 UTC (Thu) by hummassa (subscriber, #307) [Link]

Short answer: yes.
Long answer: HELL YES.
Longest answer: in an ideal world, ALL DDs should be paid to work on
Debian. Period. Even if they are doing it as a fun hobby.

> The whole thing is just realy stupid. IMO it is people attempting to
> hijack Debian over stupid politics. Debian is about to pull of one of
> the most important successes it has ever done: GET A RELEASE OUT ON TIME
> for the first time ever. And people are entirely willing to blow the
> entire thing out of the water because they have a stick up their ass.
>
> They should be ashamed of themselves.

If I was a raving paranoid lunatic, I would say that those people _want_
Debian release to be late, and Debian to lose even more of its
hard-worked-for standing. Oh wait. I _am_ a raving paranoid lunatic.
So, ...

Should Debian Developers be paid to do work on Debian?

Posted Sep 29, 2006 0:49 UTC (Fri) by mikov (subscriber, #33179) [Link]

First the recall nonsense. Then the Firefox debacle. It really seems like a conspiracy to prevent Debian from releasing on time. Well, it makes some amount of sense - releasing Debian on time will be breaking a law of nature, so it may just be the end of the universe as we know it ...

Should Debian Developers be paid to do work on Debian?

Posted Sep 29, 2006 21:08 UTC (Fri) by nlucas (subscriber, #33793) [Link]

I'm just waiting to see when they will discover some link between the people who are giving money to a company that has stocks owned by Microsoft.

Then the plot will be complete...
(Or maybe not. SCO hasn't been involved yet.)