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Mozilla firefox is no more free software.Mozilla firefox is no more free software.Posted Sep 25, 2006 18:44 UTC (Mon) by ballombe (subscriber, #9523)Parent article: The return of Iceweasel
The sad consequence of this is that the browser known as "Mozilla firefox" is no more free software, though it's code-base is, and should not be advertised as such.
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Mozilla firefox is no more free software. Posted Sep 25, 2006 19:12 UTC (Mon) by alonso (subscriber, #2828) [Link] Why? Because you not agree with their policies in copyright? Do you think the same for RedHat? CentOS was born for the same reason!
Mozilla firefox is no more free software. Posted Sep 25, 2006 20:43 UTC (Mon) by k8to (subscriber, #15413) [Link] The primary difference is that Firefox is a program wheras Red HatEnterprise Linux is a collection of programs. The Firefox name naturally would apply to all uses of that program in any combination with other programs, operating systems, and contexts, but it is not permitted to do so. The Red Hat Enterprise Linux name naturally refers to the particular set of programs and packages put together by Red Hat for enterprise use.
Yes they are both restrictions, but one is a restriction of a name which
Mozilla firefox is no more free software. Posted Sep 28, 2006 8:20 UTC (Thu) by Jel (guest, #22988) [Link] No, because "free software" has a specific meaning, and these restrictions no longer fit it.
Mozilla firefox is no more free software. Posted Sep 29, 2006 17:51 UTC (Fri) by giraffedata (subscriber, #1954) [Link] What part of the definition of free software doesn't allow this restriction? The restriction on the software we're talking about is this: You can't distribute any derivative of this software under the name "Firefox" without Mozilla's permission. For all the value I see in free software, I don't see any in free naming.
Debian isn't free software then either Posted Sep 25, 2006 23:49 UTC (Mon) by dlang (✭ supporter ✭, #313) [Link] Debian doesn't allow other projects to use it's name or logo when they modify the code and redistribute it either.
why is this acceptable for Debian, and Evil for Mozilla?
Debian isn't free software then either Posted Sep 26, 2006 6:19 UTC (Tue) by DYN_DaTa (guest, #34072) [Link] Simple ... Hypocrisy :)
Debian isn't free software then either Posted Sep 26, 2006 8:46 UTC (Tue) by ballombe (subscriber, #9523) [Link] For that reason, the non-free Debian logo is not included in the Debian distribution (and two wrong do not make a right).
Debian isn't free software then either Posted Sep 27, 2006 17:54 UTC (Wed) by hooty (subscriber, #7374) [Link] That has long been considered a bug and I'm seeing movement to correct it wothin the project recently.
Debian isn't free software then either Posted Sep 28, 2006 7:10 UTC (Thu) by branden (guest, #7029) [Link] At Anthony Towns's request, I've picked up this issue and am working onit. I've already sent him a long draft with an extensive background and rationale for the change (much of this information will be familiar to those who have had a skeptical eye on Debian's licenses on its logos for years -- but not everyone has troubled themselves to care). I was hoping to get something done this past weekend, but I suffered a hard drive failure that has affected my $HOME so I've been trying to piece that back together. (I had backups, but they, um, were a little over 2 years old.) I am learning my painful lesson and have a pair of new drives I'll be configuring into RAID 1. At any rate, expect some motion on this soon.
Debian isn't free software then either Posted Sep 26, 2006 10:06 UTC (Tue) by k8to (subscriber, #15413) [Link] Debian has decided that the restrictions on their own logo is notacceptable for Debian. Thus, the inconsistency you perceive is historical.
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