And it's not from Patrick too? ;-) [LWN.net]

And it's not from Patrick too? ;-)

Posted Sep 20, 2006 17:48 UTC (Wed) by gvy (guest, #11981)
In reply to: Adventures are pretty personal by felixfix
Parent article: My Gentoo odyssey (Linux.com)

> and it is not from Patrick
Slackwarists being *that* consumerish, they will kill off Patrick and panic if (or... when) he's ill again. Any clue on collaboration, no? Fork da rule? :(

> /bin/ls once got recompiled with a link against a /usr/lib library
Well in ALT Linux, many things like this are auto-checked (including duplicated ELF symbols to catch e.g. static zlib linkage -- you should guess why).

> (a) I really don't like the other 64 bit choices
I guess you might even not really need them; see recent LWN article on that.

> (b) because I do like updating by emerge rather than doing a complete install
You should have looked at e.g. Debian then; I guess it's hard for a slackwarist exactly because of all the words one might have heard from "them", but then, most of them might be just true.

I'm also not used to reinstalls, we have apt in ALT.

> and going back to Slackware
Years of experience don't neccessarily make an amateur a professional, if he comes to understand that / utilities must not depend on /usr but still fails to "get" strategic shifts in distro building, namely that there is more to other distros than Slackware simply because there are more *powerful* and seasoned people working on them, and even amateurs (like me, on Linux since 1998, working on ALT since 2001) doing some useful job under their guidance.

Sorry to write this, but I've been discussing this kind of things with two old-time slackwarist friends of mine (whom I respect) and a bunch of youngster phanatic types (whom I disrespect for total lack of logic, just crying "it's coool" isn't gonna make it that or otherwise help do anything)... you fit the "elder" pattern quite good.

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And it's not from Patrick too? ;-)

Posted Sep 20, 2006 18:10 UTC (Wed) by felixfix (subscriber, #242) [Link]

Being from Patrick means it won't include nonsense like linking root partition commands against non-root libraries, that it will be very vanilla, and that it will simply work without fuss. He's got a rock solid reputation and gentoo never will as long as the amateurs can so easily screw it up, whether due to ego clashes or lack of QA doesn't matter.

As for Debian, I may give it another try. My last try was probably ten years ago, and was not encouraging.