Apple's Open Source Ventures (Linux Journal) [LWN.net]

Here are two Linux Journal articles covering the latest open source ventures from Apple. This one about Safari, and this one about Apple's new version of X11 Windowing Environment.

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Is Apple's X11 free?

Posted Jan 14, 2003 0:13 UTC (Tue) by raph (guest, #326) [Link]

The second link talks about Apple's X11 being "open source", but I can't find any actual evidence that the source code is even being released, much less under a free license.

Hopefully, I'm just missing something, but even if so you'd hope that they would play up the actual source availability.

Their mods to the KHTML library are of course freely released, but that's probably only because the license (LGPL) obligates them to do so. The obvious moral is that if you want your software to continue to be free, choose a copyleft license.

Is Apple's X11 free?

Posted Jan 14, 2003 13:32 UTC (Tue) by hummassa (subscriber, #307) [Link]

I'm under the impression that Apple's X11 is XFree86... As the licence permits closing it,
I would bet that this is the case.

Apple's X will be free

Posted Jan 14, 2003 17:59 UTC (Tue) by questor (guest, #9084) [Link]

From Apple's X11-users mailing list (List-Subscribe: <http://www.lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/x11-users>):

Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 22:34:07 -0800
From: Haroon Sheikh <haroon@apple.com>
Subject: X11 for Mac OS X Frequently Asked Questions

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Q: Will source for X11 for Mac OS X be released?
A: Yes, the source code for the X11 server will be made available soon on the Darwin web pages. It will only contain the source for the X11 server, but not the quartz-wm window manager.

Apple's X will be free

Posted Jul 6, 2003 1:33 UTC (Sun) by hifudgepaki (guest, #12676) [Link]

Yes, like the hacked garbage called Apple's "quartz window manager" is sooo advanced that it must be kept under lock and key.
I can't believe Apple's luck -- they completely fail to come up with a useable window manager so they use John Carmack to steal X11 and now they graciously claim that the source code is being "freely made available".

To set the record straight;
THE X11 WINDOW SYSTEM EXISTED 20 YEARS BEFORE APPLE'S "QUARTZ" GARBAGE DID AND IT WAS ALWAYS FREE. APPLE NEVER OWNED IT AND NEVER WILL...ALL IT CAN DO IS USE X11 TO REPLACE ITS OWN CRAPWARE JUST AS IT STOLE UNIX AND CALLED IT "MAC OS X".

Hornee Haroon Sheikh writes;
>A: Yes, the source code for the X11 server will be made available soon >on the Darwin web pages. It will only contain the source for the X11 >server, but not the quartz-wm window manager.