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SpreadGNOME.org Launches

The new SpreadGNOME.org site has been launched. "In an effort to promote the adoption of GNU/Linux desktops, SpreadGNOME.org has launched with the goal of being a resource to help spread the word of GNOME to GNU/Linux desktop users and potential converts. It is meant as a place to share ideas to help promote GNOME in the community, and helping those who wish to get involved with GNOME. Feel free to submit other GNOME-related content as well to this site. SpreadGNOME.org is an independent web-site and is not affiliated with, authorized by, sponsored by, or otherwise approved by GNOME Foundation. "
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SpreadGNOME.org Launches

Posted Aug 24, 2006 20:26 UTC (Thu) by yodermk (subscriber, #3803) [Link]

Hard to see how really useful this is ....

> being a resource to help spread the word of GNOME to GNU/Linux desktop users

How many Linux desktop users don't already have "the word of GNOME"?

Most of us have it, we just know KDE is better! }:) (Sorry, just in the mood to troll...)

More seriously, shouldn't these "spread..." efforts be focused on the entire Free Desktop world? We should be spreading the word of open standards and free software to the Windows-using world, not "preaching to the choir", converting folks from one Free desktop to another, like this site seems to want to do.

As the entire Free Desktop-using world grows, all projects win, including GNOME.

SpreadGNOME.org Launches

Posted Aug 24, 2006 21:27 UTC (Thu) by moxfyre (subscriber, #13847) [Link]

I agree that a SpreadGNOME site is pretty silly if it's just aimed at stealing KDE folks away. If you're using KDE or GNOME or Xfce or fvwm, you probably already "get" free software, and that's the most important thing!

On the other hand, if this site aims at a new-to-FLOSS crowd, aiming to make them excited about and comfortable with one of the premier Linux desktops, then I'm all for it. Both GNOME and KDE would like more folks to be using Linux on the desktop, and both of them make good desktop environments. What's wrong with them each trying to attract newbies separately?

(Full disclosure: I'm a long-time GNOME user myself.)

SpreadGNOME.org Launches

Posted Aug 24, 2006 22:37 UTC (Thu) by drag (subscriber, #31333) [Link]

Well I sometimes go and look at Gnome planet time to time.

From their perspective it seems to some of them that Gnome has a image and a bit of a social problem.

People complained copy/paste is broken.. So gnome fixed that. Windows-style copy/paste works as expected.

People complained drag-n-drop on the linux desktop sucks.. So gnome fixed that. Most everything works one way or another with drag and drop. Drag and drop files and folders into gnome-terminal. Drag stuff into the windows selection bar to switch windows and then drop into those window. Something unexpected may happen, but something usually does happen.

People complained about unified interface and buckets of odd and conflicting options all over the place.. So got all nazi-ish with the human interface guidelines and made everything as simple as they could. So now options they do have make sense and they work and the UI is unified.

So what happens whenever a slashdot story or digg story or anything else gest posted on the net about gnome?

You have a sort of mini-army of people showing up and talking how Gnome sucks. Their interface nazis. It's bloated. It's slow. It's made for newbies only. Spatial interface was a retarded idea etc etc.

Then you have people going around talking about how KDE does this or does that and how it's wonderfull and all that stuff. A lot of advocacy a lot of people following around developers in the KDE community giving positive feedback and stuff like that.

So they want some hype also. They want people to get interested in Gnome.

At least that's the impression I get.

So I'll do my Gnome fanboy part. :)

I like how the interface is unified. I like how keyboard buttons mostly match between applications. I like Spatial Nautilus. I like how I can choose browser mode nautilus easily. I like how I can open up a folder with over 200 directories of different album names in my ogg/flac collection and be able to find directories quickly just by typing out the first few letters of the name and hitting enter when it gets highlighted.

I like how I can just hit 'alt-f2' and launch programs by typing out the first few letters of their names. I like how desktop search is integrated into Deskbar applet. I like being able to find files quickly and easily with beagle. I like having my address book aviable there.. and dictionary searches, and program launching, and internet searches, and tomboy note searches. I like how different apps are being integrated well.

Can't help it. I feel obligated. :P

But what I do like most is how there is a choice. I like how people can choose... KDE vs Gnome vs XCFE vs Fluxbox vs Windowmaker & the Gnustep band vs whatever. And it works.

Remember how there was a time when you had to worry about weither or not your Window manager or other items were compatable with KDE or Gnome stuff?

For the sort of people that like jabbing themselves in their leg with a fork or setting fire to articles of clothing while wearing them can now also enjoy the fun of running Metacity in KDE!! Yeah for window manager standards!

I realy hope that Portland project works out and KDE and Gnome intergrate better together.

I like kaudiocreator. I like Amarok (sometimes).. but running KDE makes me want to slowly press my thumbs into my eyeballs. And for other people I know it's the oppisite is true.. they probably have usefull Gnome or GTK apps that they'd like to work in KDE environment better.

SpreadGNOME.org Launches

Posted Aug 25, 2006 0:36 UTC (Fri) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]

Hear hear. What matters isn't really that one desktop is `better' than the
other: they learn from each other and improvements feed back and forth.
What matters is the hordes of people doomed through knowing no better to
using the horribly insecure and rather unpleasant Windows environment.

SpreadGNOME.org Launches

Posted Aug 24, 2006 22:24 UTC (Thu) by bryce (subscriber, #16388) [Link]

> More seriously, shouldn't these "spread..." efforts be focused on the entire Free Desktop world? We should be spreading the word of open standards and free software to the Windows-using world, not "preaching to the choir", converting folks from one Free desktop to another, like this site seems to want to do.

Yes, and probably should be a tad broader even than just free software, to include related things like wikipedia, creative commons, groklaw, open standards and so forth.

Lessig's freeculture.org site might be a suitable place for such a thing...

http://wiki.freeculture.org/Spread_Free_Culture

It's to tell other desktop users too

Posted Aug 24, 2006 22:41 UTC (Thu) by dwheeler (guest, #1216) [Link]

Well, in its "about" it says it wants to spread the word to those who don't currently use GNU/Linux. Whether a GNOME-specific or "any free desktop" approach is better, I have no clue. Let's let 'em try, and see.

SpreadGNOME.org Launches

Posted Aug 25, 2006 0:09 UTC (Fri) by beoba (guest, #16942) [Link]

Okay, say I'm new to computers. How am I going to encounter this site?

Or will it instead be geared towards people who are somewhat experienced with Windows, but dont know squat about Linux? What useful resources could be provided for those people that isn't available elsewhere?

The site says that it is a "place to share ideas to help promote GNOME in the community", but which community?

I'm not saying that the site is a bad thing by any means, it's just that they don't appear to have a firm grasp on who they plan to be marketing to.

SpreadGNOME.org Launches

Posted Aug 25, 2006 17:30 UTC (Fri) by TwoTimeGrime (guest, #11688) [Link]

First thing people will ask is "Will it run on Windows". Spread Firefox works because Firefox is cross platform.

Someone should start a Spread OpenOffice.org campaign.

SpreadGNOME.org Launches

Posted Aug 25, 2006 19:40 UTC (Fri) by biciunas (guest, #4398) [Link]

What I like about SpreadGNOME.org is that they've harnessed time travel. And there's proof:
(from the website)

Upcoming Events
GNOME 2.16.0 Release (Sep 06)
GNOME 2.16.1 Release (Oct 04)

SpreadGNOME.org Launches

Posted Aug 26, 2006 10:02 UTC (Sat) by sdalley (subscriber, #18550) [Link]

No, it's just careless-american format mmm-dd.

SpreadGNOME.org Launches

Posted Aug 29, 2006 0:43 UTC (Tue) by drag (subscriber, #31333) [Link]

No it's not.

That's not 'american' format at all. It's just a bugger up. The 0 before the 4 is a convention used to indicate year. '94, '83, '54, '03 etc.

American format is Month, day, year. For example:
January 1st, 1993
Or in short form:
1/1/93

Or you can eliminate the day when your specifying a target date were the specific day isn't paticularly relevent.
Jan 02 is January 2002. THAT is valid American-style date.

As in:
'I don't know for sure when I last expected to see him, maybe around Dec 04."

SpreadGNOME.org Launches

Posted Aug 27, 2006 11:35 UTC (Sun) by petegn (guest, #847) [Link]

Gnome who needs it anyway

It's just smoke and mirrors

SpreadGNOME.org Launches

Posted Sep 1, 2006 9:03 UTC (Fri) by jospoortvliet (subscriber, #33164) [Link]

wel, at least i don't get its popularity. it's imho not really a community
project anymore, and Sun/Red Hat/Novell have already shown they don't
really care about it, either. the users got used to being told what's good
for them (and well, many ppl where used to that in the proprietary world
anyway) so they don't really care anymore - the others left, or told
themselves they like 'the new gnome'.

still, Sun and the others did some excellent usability work in some areas.
their focus on a clean and easy interface did lead to some great stuff
(love the dual-panel setup), which no doubt can be learned from by other
DE's - as long as they keep the users in mind. some are totally frightened
by the thought of having KDE dumbed down, hehe, leads to some funny
comments ;-)

anyway, Gnome is most popular in the corporate environment, which makes
sense. it leads to less training - less 'advanced' tricks available, and
easy to start with. Sun/Red Hat/Novell focus on the corporate market, so
they include stuff which makes gnome easier to manage - things linux
sorely lacks, so that's a good thing. it promotes The Free Desktop, so i
think it's a Good Thing.

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