Time for ext4

[Posted July 5, 2006 by corbet]

A few weeks ago, this page looked at possible additions to the ext3 filesystem and the question of whether the time had come to freeze ext3 and put new features into a new ext4 filesystem again. The ext2/3 filesystem developers have now responded to that discussion with a clear answer: they will be moving on to ext4.

More specifically, a new filesystem will be created under fs/ext4 in the kernel source. Said filesystem will register itself as "ext3dev," in an attempt to make it crystal clear that it is a development filesystem, not suitable for the storage of data which one actually wishes to keep. New feature work - especially changes which change on-disk formats and prevent interoperation with current ext3 implementations - will go into this new filesystem, while ext3 will continue to receive bug fixes and some safe improvements. Throughout this process, the new filesystem will retain its ability to work with the current ext3 format.

Sometime in the future, ext3dev will be declared stable and renamed "ext4." Once the last bugs have been shaken out, this filesystem will lose its "experimental" designation and users will be encouraged to upgrade. Since support for ext3 formats will be there, this upgrade should be an easy process, with no backup-and-restore step or downtime required. Further in the future, the ext3 code may be removed and ext4 would transparently handle ext3 filesystems as well.

There seems to be little opposition to this approach, so it would appear that things will happen this way. Since the addition of a new, experimental filesystem carries little regression risk, the creation of ext4 and the addition of some new features (extents, for example) could yet happen for 2.6.18.

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Time for ext4

Posted Jul 7, 2006 16:56 UTC (Fri) by jzbiciak (guest, #5246) [Link]

"And there was much rejoicing!"

I was hoping this would be the route they took. It's the path that makes the most sense to me. It'll be interesting to see how extent-based ext4 plays out. When you cross this with some of the stuff that the File Systems Workshop brought up, it'll also be interesting to see what other features come in.

Time for ext4

Posted Jul 10, 2006 20:54 UTC (Mon) by malor (guest, #2973) [Link]

This seems like an excellent plan. They don't tag it as ext3, so people don't accidentally make filesystems they can't use on older kernels. And they keep backward compatibility, so old ext3 filesystems won't break either, even if the current ext3 code is someday removed. They preserve the basic expectation that anything labeled as ext3 should mount on an ext3-supporting kernel. With the ext4 name change, they create the automatic (and correct) assumption that older kernels won't be able to read the new format.

I think they nailed it. I can't think of a single objection.