Evidence for Red Hat's Mark Webbink's pro-software patent directive lobbying
From: | Florian Mueller <fmueller.nosoftwarepatents-AT-googlemail.com> | |
To: | <lwn-AT-lwn.net> | |
Subject: | Evidence for Red Hat's Mark Webbink's pro-software patent directive lobbying | |
Date: | Mon, 3 Jul 2006 08:00:12 +0200 |
www.no-lobbyists-as-such.com/florian-mueller-blog/red-hat-mark-webbink/
Evidence for Mark Webbink's pro-patent directive lobbying on July 5, 2005
July 3rd, 2006
In my previous blog article, I mentioned the fact that Red Hat's deputy
general counsel, Mark Webbink, lobbied in the European Parliament on July 5,
2005 (the day before the EP's decisive vote to reject the software patent
bill) to keep the software patent directive alive.
I had not anticipated the kind of Internet debate that this statement would
trigger, including some insulting emails that were sent to me, and least of
all I would have expected Mark Webbink to call into question the "veracity
of [my] statements", which is what he did in the discussion below this
LWN.net article. He knows exactly what he did.
The word "motivations" also appears in that posting. It's really simple: on
the occasion of a patent suit having been filed against Red Hat, I thought
it was time to tell the truth. Especially the free and open source software
(FOSS) community should know where certain key players stand. That will
better enable people to take a critical perspective on such initiatives as
the OSDL Patent Commons.
Contrary to what Mark Webbink claims, my related statements are not
"unverifiable". What he did on July 5, 2005 is a well-documented fact, and
here's some evidence:
From: [name and address of adviser to Michel Rocard MEP deleted]
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 2:53 AM
To: Florian Mueller
Cc: europarl-help@ffii.org
Subject: Re: Economist article - coordinated response needed
[cut]
Yes. The day before the vote, as I had been considered
by them as somewhat connected to Mr Rocard 8^) , I
have been quite heavily lobbied by a group comprising
Mrs Thornby-Nielsen (Sun), Mrs Moll (Google), Mr Webbink
(RedHat) and Mr Cox (IBM). All four had basically the
same concerns
[cut]
I have removed parts of the email and in particular the name of the author,
further to his request. He would prefer to stay in the background, like many
political advisers do. But europarl-help@ffii.org is a key mailing list of
European anti-software patent activists, and dozens of people received that
email directly. No one will seriously question its authenticity.
And here's an important excerpt from a follow-up email:
From: [name and address of adviser to Michel Rocard MEP deleted]
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 1:44 PM
To: Florian Mueller
Cc: europarl-help@ffii.org
Subject: Re: Economist article - coordinated response needed
[cut]
> They were against the rejection deal, right? I know that Mark W. and
> Charlotte T.-N. didn't want rejection.
It seemed so to me. All of them. Basically, it seemed
to me they were not likely to have no sotware patents
at all. The interpretation I gave Mr Webbink was that
it is not culturally acceptable, for most people that
come from the legal and patent world, to reject a system
from which one can make some money.
[cut]
I believe the above should eliminate all reasonable doubt about what
happened that day. While the FFII and I were asking everyone we knew in the
European Parliament to reject the proposed software patent directive, Red
Hat's Mark Webbink, along with representatives of IBM, Sun and Google,
pushed in the opposite direction.
So what did he really want to achieve? Someone pointed me to an article Mark
Webbink wrote and which in its paragraph #20 refers to the EU software
patent directive. He asks for a definition of the term "technical
contribution" (a key term in patent law) that "will eliminate the vast
majority of business method patents and will restore a substantial
non-obviousness test to software patents". If you read that carefully, it
means he accepts software patents per se. He'd just like to raise the bar a
little bit, and the FFII and I and all others who know how substantive
patent law is applied in practice can tell you that defining "technical
contribution" properly would not be a sufficient measure. It would just have
the desired effect as part of a coherent framework of patentability
criteria. Otherwise it's like a bucket has five holes and you close one: all
of the water will still go through the other holes.
In the same article, and in the Red Hat/Sun position paper that Mark Webbink
published again on LWN.net, a lot of emphasis is put on an interoperability
privilege. That, again, means to accept the patentability of software per
se, but to demand a carve-out for certain purposes. To the FFII and myself,
interoperability was not even a secondary priority. We focused on the
definition of what is patentable and what is not. If software is not
patentable at all, there's no pressing need for an interoperability
exception as far as we're concerned. Interoperability was exactly the area
in which the pro-software patent forces were most wiling to make a
concession if it allowed them to win the wider battle.
Finally, I'd like to reiterate what I said in my previous post: What Mark
Webbink did behind the scenes is not necessarily Red Hat's position as a
company, even though Red Hat has entrusted him with patent lobbying. There
are many people at Red Hat who clearly oppose software patents, and who
opposed the EU software patent directive, most of all Alan Cox.
Posted Jul 8, 2006 23:40 UTC (Sat)
by man_ls (guest, #15091)
[Link]
Just in case someone from the future stumbles on this letter from google (ehrm, a search engine quite popular in the early 2000's): see FFII's rejection on the same LWN page. Red Hat at the time issued public statements contrary to what is suggested (not proved) here.
Hardly evidence