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Mueller's blogMueller's blogPosted Jul 1, 2006 8:44 UTC (Sat) by man_ls (subscriber, #15091)Parent article: Patent infringement suit filed against Red Hat (No Lobbyists As Such) For those whose coffee has not yet made effect, like me. After the news Florian Mueller writes in his blog, in bold: Yes: A Red Hat executive lobbied for the EU software patent directive at the 11th hour [...]Wow, Florian Mueller taking advantage of a report for his personal aims? I can't believe it. (The last link is particularly entertaining, look for Jonathan Corbet's comments in there.)
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Mueller's blog Posted Jul 1, 2006 21:53 UTC (Sat) by rmstar (guest, #3672) [Link] Unfortunately, it isn't really funny. From that thread The way this discussion here goes reaffirms my concerns that a number of members of the open-source community have a value system that, right or wrong, is not compatible with that of a political majority. Wisdom is definately on his side. Look, the EFF has lost a variety of cases that should have been won, and it has only itself to blame by taking radical positions that could do nothing but lose. Florian Mueller and his band of merry men have, instead, WON!! FOR FUCK'S SAKE!!. And for those that didn't pay attention, the odds were stacked ridiculously high against them. And by the way things look, a lot of that was possible only because he had a good feeling for what could be done under the circumstances. I have a great deal of respect for Florian Mueller, and am thankful for what he has achieved. I find it a scandal the way he is being libeled and insulted in this forum.
Mueller's blog Posted Jul 2, 2006 2:35 UTC (Sun) by sbergman27 (guest, #10767) [Link] Yeah. I agree. Libel is cool... as long as you get results.
Mueller's blog Posted Jul 2, 2006 21:47 UTC (Sun) by man_ls (subscriber, #15091) [Link] Look, the EFF has lost a variety of cases that should have been won, and it has only itself to blame by taking radical positions that could do nothing but lose.There are not two sides here: the EFF and Mueller. We, as a group, have different opinions on code, licenses, patents and other things. Mueller was asking us to condemn "piracy enablers" (bnetd) which were actually servers that interoperate with commercial games, and most people here disagreed with him. Florian Mueller and his band of merry men have, instead, WON!! FOR FUCK'S SAKE!!. And for those that didn't pay attention, the odds were stacked ridiculously high against them. And by the way things look, a lot of that was possible only because he had a good feeling for what could be done under the circumstances.Sorry, but we all won. Mueller is selling it as if he did all the work, but there were a multitude of organizations (FFII at the helm) which all helped, plus a myriad websites which closed in support, plus a lot of people who actually demonstrated and wrote to their representatives and so on, plus political parties around Europe which voted against in the Parliament. You get the idea. I have a great deal of respect for Florian Mueller, and am thankful for what he has achieved. I find it a scandal the way he is being libeled and insulted in this forum.Most people disagreed with him, but I see no libel or insults anywhere. Could you point to precise examples?
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