The problem of Firefox in Ubuntu Breezy [LWN.net]

The problem of Firefox in Ubuntu Breezy

Posted Jun 7, 2006 21:40 UTC (Wed) by cventers (subscriber, #31465)
In reply to: The problem of Firefox in Ubuntu Breezy by h2
Parent article: The problem of Firefox in Ubuntu Breezy

I feel you. But I do great without extensions, so I use Konqueror
exclusively.

I could swear that Konqueror history sped up in 3.5.3, but maybe it was
just subliminal. In any case, Konqueror's history has always been
_faster_ for me than Firefox's (as well as Konqueror's rendering and
startup), so Firefox eating boatloads more memory seems silly (not to
mention the disturbing appearance that all the early claims of Firefox
being more secure than Internet Explorer appear, to my eyes anyway,
completely false).

One of the nice things about the KDE4/Qt4 efforts is that we're likely to
see apps like Konqueror ported over to Windows. I don't personally care
since I don't use the proprietary OS, but having an open source browser
as awesome as Konq available on Windows means more mainstream competition
for Firefox, which will hopefully force them to get their act together.

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The problem of Firefox in Ubuntu Breezy

Posted Jun 7, 2006 21:50 UTC (Wed) by h2 (guest, #27965) [Link]

I use a lot of extensions, i depend on them for development, konqueror as a base is better I think than firefox as a base, but the extensions just can't be matched, that's because konqueror extensions have to be done in c or c++, can't remember which, they don't have an extension scripting language like firefox has. Currently only adblock is ported. Which is great, but it's not good enough, sadly.

Konqueror really benefited from the applewebkit upgrades of safari in khtml, no doubt about that, it's very solid now.

I don't know where you got that idea about firefox vs MSIE, that's just some MS spin you fell for, firefox does not have active x, which is a core access to the OS. Firefox will never have that, so firefox will never have that deep level vulnerability. Firefox has vulnerabilities, and if you read them carefully, most are not very serious, not like somebody tricking active x to install a rootkit into windows. No firefox user I have switched from MSIE has experienced ANY spyware infections. All MSIE users have these, no matter what MS does to try to stop it. XP SP 2 did not succeed in securing it, nothing MS has done has succeeded, because MSIE is insecure by design, it can never resolve that issue as long as active x exists.

The problem of Firefox in Ubuntu Breezy

Posted Jun 8, 2006 10:44 UTC (Thu) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]

Konqueror extensions (KParts) are C++ (although of course you can write most of them in any language GCC can handle and specifically any language there are KParts bindings for).

It wouldn't be too terribly difficult to write a scripting language KPart, but there are security concerns: Konqueror can do anything KDE can do...