The real point [LWN.net]

The real point

Posted May 17, 2006 9:57 UTC (Wed) by man_ls (subscriber, #15091)
In reply to: The real point by grouch
Parent article: GPL concerns halt Kororaa live CD (NewsForge)

Actually, I find einstein's comment quite reasonable. Many hobbysts seem to be ok with keeping a copy of Windows around just to play games. Proprietary drivers allow people to play on Linux instead; from this perspective they look like a lesser evil.

I have given up gaming; it's too hard on Linux, and it takes too much time anyway. But it is just one of those strongholds left to Windows and hampering Linux adoption. It is relevant for many people.

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The real point

Posted May 17, 2006 18:58 UTC (Wed) by grouch (guest, #27289) [Link]

Actually, I find einstein's comment quite reasonable. Many hobbysts seem to be ok with keeping a copy of Windows around just to play games. Proprietary drivers allow people to play on Linux instead; from this perspective they look like a lesser evil.

That is what confuses me. If the hobbyist is most likely to need the extra functions in the closed drivers, how will abandoning those drivers to use only the libre drivers result in a "retreat to the hobbyist realm and cede the desktop"?

I have given up gaming; it's too hard on Linux, and it takes too much time anyway. But it is just one of those strongholds left to Windows and hampering Linux adoption. It is relevant for many people.

I agree with you with respect to time and relevancy. The others are not so clear. id Software games, in particular, are not hard to set up on Linux. Tuxgames handles commercial games and Happy Penguin features piles of free games from scrollers to 3d multiplayer.

The hampering comes more from the pre-installation of MS Windows, which provides gamers with a beginning platform and provides game vendors with market numbers. It's the chicken and egg syndrome.

The real point

Posted May 17, 2006 21:42 UTC (Wed) by man_ls (subscriber, #15091) [Link]

If the hobbyist is most likely to need the extra functions in the closed drivers, how will abandoning those drivers to use only the libre drivers result in a "retreat to the hobbyist realm and cede the desktop"?

Because said hobbyist will more likely defeat to legacy operating systems than stop playing GTA San Andreas. The strange ways of reality.

id Software games, in particular, are not hard to set up on Linux.

You know, games are more like movies. Having one or two, even ten, is hardly going to satisfy any enthusiast. They get excited with new releases, they visit specialist web sites and stores, they spend a lot of time and money on them. Even the casual player buys some titles from time to time; remember that games make more money than movies.