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More Lame Excuses

Posted Apr 11, 2006 2:19 UTC (Tue) by GreyWizard (subscriber, #1026)
In reply to: Did I say Linus needed "sympathy"? by sepreece
Parent article: Bruce Perens: State of Open Source

All of that completely misses the point. No one is disputing free speech rights or advocating censorship. Nor is the problem in this case that some opinions might be unrepresented in the feedback process. Regardless of what Torvalds might think about Stallman, snubbing him in response to evidence of open mindedness is counterproductive. And since compromise requires sacrifice on both sides, someone who refuses to come to the table without assurance that a particular position will ultimately be adopted doesn't occupy the moral high ground. Someone who wanted good results, rather than cheap media attention, would have made an honest effort.

Unlike Perens, who emphasized the positive aspects of the GPLv3 process, Torvalds allowed his reputation to be used by Forbes for sensational purposes and created public relations problems the Free Software Foundation doesn't need. That's a poor substitute for direct communication and an oddly political gesture from a fellow who claims to hate politics. Alan Cox demonstrates how a person who actually doesn't want to stir up drama handles things by refusing to predict what license the kernel will use in the future on the basis of an unfinished draft and pointing out that the kernel developers will eventually make a choice as a community.

All of this should be easy to grasp for anyone who isn't determined to think of Stallman and the GNU GPL in negative terms regardless of the circumstances.


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Posted Apr 11, 2006 5:15 UTC (Tue) by sepreece (subscriber, #19270) [Link]

"Refusing to come to the table without assurance that a particular position will ultimately be adopted" is different from declining to butt one's head against an immovable object. I'm not here to bash Stallman. He's allowed to have a fixed position on an issue and he's earned the right to decide what the terms of his organization's license are. I think he's being gracious and sensible in setting up an inclusive process for reviewing and refining the language of the license.

I agree with you that Linus probably meant to be dramatic and sensational - to be the larger-than-life Linus character rather than a humble technologist. So what? You say it's "counterproductive". That might be true if his goal was to get the final GPLv3 as close to his preferences as possible. On the other hand, if he is convinced that on this one, key issue it will be impossible to get an acceptable GPLv3, then his definition of "productive" might be more in terms of building mindshare for the notion that conversion to what emerges from the GPLv3 is not inevitable.

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