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Unbalanced ReportingUnbalanced ReportingPosted Apr 6, 2006 4:35 UTC (Thu) by wtogami (subscriber, #32325)Parent article: Fedora and MP3
Respectfully, in my opinion this article is unbalanced in not stating the other side of this story and giving too much credibilty to ESR due to his "celebrity" status.
Being one of the Red Hat engineers who criticized ESR for his dishonesty in this particular fedora-devel-list flamewar I am probably not best to summarize these matters, but I provide here some posts that demonstrate unbalanced reporting in this article. I hope that LWN can do better in the future.
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2006-Ap...
It is my personal opinion that ESR is acting dishonest, recklessly in some kind of misguided crusade that is destructive to our community's long term interests.
When he responded to mail in this flamewar, it seemed like he missed obvious points entirely and chose not to respond to particularly difficult questions. Later in this flamewar when the community largely turned against him, he became even more unreasonable and illogical and in some places whiney. This is the kind of behavior that I would expect out of kindergartener, not a full grown adult and "leader" of a global socio-economic movement. Very puzzling to me.
Warren Togami
(DISCLAIMER: Views expressed here are those of solely myself and not necessarily my employer.)
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Unbalanced Reporting Posted Apr 6, 2006 5:23 UTC (Thu) by wtogami (subscriber, #32325) [Link] On second thought, the original article was not quite as unbalanced as I thought. I apologize. Keep up the good work.
ESR outside agitator, not leader Posted Apr 6, 2006 9:16 UTC (Thu) by bkoz (subscriber, #4027) [Link] I take issue with the idea of describing ESR as a leader.
He's a commentator, and occasional agitator By his own definition, he's not a contributor, at least a regular contributor.
Leadership to me implies a willingness to deal with the details, and a commitment to take a long-term position within a community while working towards a common goal.
Drive-by postings on a development list don't count, at least to me.
ESR outside agitator, not leader Posted Apr 6, 2006 23:29 UTC (Thu) by wcooley (subscriber, #1233) [Link] Yeah, it's time we let the dead parrot die.
ESR Drive-By Flamewars Posted Apr 7, 2006 1:35 UTC (Fri) by gstein (guest, #3612) [Link] The Subversion development community has been subject to Eric's drive-by flames, too. On several occasions. At least one of those times, we had to send Eric email off-list to ask him to stop posting and leave. By that point, everybody had flipped the bozo bit and begun ignoring him entirely. Thus, his continued rants were merely sucking energy from the community with zero potential for any positive outcome.
Since this has happened several times at Subversion, and now I learn with Fedora, too, I can only conclude this is Eric's "typical" pattern of interaction with communities nowadays. Unfortunately, it is rather uncool, disrespectful, and unbecoming of him.
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