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Fedora core 5 will (temporarily) break non-GPL modulesFedora core 5 will (temporarily) break non-GPL modulesPosted Mar 16, 2006 15:47 UTC (Thu) by elanthis (guest, #6227)Parent article: Fedora core 5 will (temporarily) break non-GPL modules
It's pretty much a given that Fedora is constantly broken in one fashion or another, even at release time. That's possibly the single largest reason I switched to Ubuntu. Despite my extreme dislike for Debian based OSes, at least with Ubuntu I didn't feel like I was nothing more than Red Hat's guinea pig.
I really miss the days of Red Hat Linux, when we had a stable and supported OS for hobbyists and home users from Red Hat.
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Fedora core 5 will (temporarily) break non-GPL modules Posted Mar 16, 2006 16:41 UTC (Thu) by rhiensch (guest, #15396) [Link] Come on, you have to choose between stability or the latest greatest.stability means proven technology (which needs time to prove) and this in contradiction with "to-day" May be you are the same guy who blame Red Hat that they didn't come up with the latest in the past. I think http://centos.org/ is yours.
Fedora core 5 will (temporarily) break non-GPL modules Posted Mar 16, 2006 20:16 UTC (Thu) by tjc (subscriber, #137) [Link] Come on, you have to choose between stability or the latest greatest.No, you don't; it's not an "all or nothing" proposition. As a former Red Hat user, I also miss the non-enterprise Red Hat releases. They struck a nice balance between stability and newness. Fedora seems not to, which is why I switched to Ubuntu.
Fedora core 5 will (temporarily) break non-GPL modules Posted Mar 16, 2006 21:35 UTC (Thu) by dvandeun (guest, #24273) [Link] Indeed a distribution can very well be conservative for its base system (kernel, gcc, glibc, X, ...) but provide up-to-date applications.
My desktop systems run slackware-current (i.e. the development branch): the system as a whole is quite conservative and very stable, but I'm always using the very newest KDE desktop.
Fedora core 5 will (temporarily) break non-GPL modules Posted Mar 17, 2006 5:19 UTC (Fri) by linuxrocks123 (guest, #34648) [Link] I use Slackware -current as well, but you paint too rosy a picture. It isa development branch, and things do break occasionally. It might actually be okay to run as a server, because the core does stay pretty stable, but GUI-centric things frequently break. For example, a few weeks ago, ImageMagick broke completely. That is a critical program for me, and I had to hunt down libraries that were removed by an X server upgrade to get it working again.
Fedora core 5 will (temporarily) break non-GPL modules Posted Mar 17, 2006 11:42 UTC (Fri) by dvandeun (guest, #24273) [Link] The point that I was trying to make was that *even* the development branch never breaks in a big way. But no conservative approach can avoid breaking things at all in a development branch, of course.
Fedora core 5 will (temporarily) break non-GPL modules Posted Mar 16, 2006 20:52 UTC (Thu) by HappyCamp (subscriber, #29230) [Link] It's pretty much a given that every distribution is constantly broken, unless you can point me to a distribution that has zero defects/bugs :)
I started out using Red Hat Linux and have been using Fedora Core. I have noticed a few issues here and there but nothing that has made me want to switch distributions.
I guess it is to each their own.
Fedora core 5 will (temporarily) break non-GPL modules Posted Mar 17, 2006 0:36 UTC (Fri) by hawk (subscriber, #3195) [Link] I think the whole point was that Fedora is much more experimental than RHL ever was.
I'm not truly into RedHat, but from what I've seen and heard I don't think anyone is saying that Fedora has to be absolutely bug free or that RHL was absolutely bug free.
Fedora core 5 will (temporarily) break non-GPL modules Posted Mar 17, 2006 6:53 UTC (Fri) by wolfrider (guest, #3105) [Link] Ever heard of Debian STABLE? :P
Fedora core 5 will (temporarily) break non-GPL modules Posted Mar 17, 2006 7:22 UTC (Fri) by HappyCamp (subscriber, #29230) [Link] Which of course does NOT have zero defects/bugs :)
Fedora core 5 will (temporarily) break non-GPL modules Posted Mar 19, 2006 23:56 UTC (Sun) by hescominsoon (guest, #36575) [Link] you can use one fo the RHEL rebuilds. You get the relative stability of RHEL with the community of a fedora. I personally use Centos.
Fedora core 5 will (temporarily) break non-GPL modules Posted Mar 20, 2006 17:44 UTC (Mon) by bogado (guest, #36601) [Link] I went to ubuntu after reading so much good reviews about it. And while I found it very good, if your need are those of the bundled set of features it stinks when you want to develop and lack the knowledge on debian systems.
First you have to install a compiler, so far so good the ubuntu site has a FAQ about it and with a single command you're there. But then when you start using the compiler you discover that you have to install every single development library by hand, in fedora you choose "gnome-development" in the installation and voila you have all the devel libraries you need for gnome-development. Ubuntu don't seem to have this choice, or if it have it is not easy to find.
Well, after a few days of happily using ubuntu I discovered that I don't have the man pages for the Xt* functions. I research the ubuntu site and discover a bug for this, it turns out the developer forgot to pack them. Well it is only human to forget and I understand that, but the solution description in the bug makes me very anoyed "fixed in Dapper". So this means that I have to wait until the next release of the distribution to get a simple fix to a "I forgot to package some man pages" bug??? Oh come on, fixing this bug is not going to afect any other part of the system, and it is very anoying to people that need those man pages, as I do (unfortunaly I may add).
So after a few other problems involving installing development packages with the "great apt-get and dpkg" (irony indented) I am going back to fedora, at least they do fix their bugs in a timely fashion. :-P I still like ubuntu, and I am going to install it for a friend that wants to test linux, since he is not a developer, and have more basic needs I think ubuntu will be just the distribution for him. :-)
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