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New Live CD showcasing XGL (FootNotes)
If you are curious about what can be done with all the 3D work going on: FootNotes has a blurb about the Kororaa live CD, a Gentoo-based live system with all the Xgl goodies on it.
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New Live CD showcasing XGL (FootNotes) Posted Mar 8, 2006 21:19 UTC (Wed) by admorgan (guest, #26575) [Link] Unfortunately the link to the image does not have the correct permissions, and there is not a torrent that I have found yet.
While I am interested in seeing the new features of Xgl are, I was under the impression that it requires a software to actively use the feature set, and was not a drop in all in wonder for currently developed applications. Due to the fact that Xgl is only compatible with a subset of cards, and that software emulation of the features it presents is very expensive is it practical for things like window managers to use these features? I already drooped both gnome and kde because I don't stand how many resources they consumed compared to the apps I run.
New Live CD showcasing XGL (FootNotes) Posted Mar 8, 2006 21:51 UTC (Wed) by proski (subscriber, #104) [Link] The link has been fixed. Applications are not required to use the new feature set. Legacy application would work just fine if the hardware is compatible with XGL. Whether it's practical to use the new features for window managers depends on what window manager you are writing and what users you are targetting. The answer would be "no" for general purpose window managers and "yes" for experimental window managers looking to impress users.
New Live CD showcasing XGL (FootNotes) Posted Mar 8, 2006 22:44 UTC (Wed) by admorgan (guest, #26575) [Link] The link is still broken to download the image.You can download a torrent for the Live CD here: http://linuxtracker.org/torrents-details.php?id=1604
New Live CD showcasing XGL (FootNotes) Posted Mar 8, 2006 23:15 UTC (Wed) by einstein (subscriber, #2052) [Link] wget http://getkororaa.com/releases/xgl/kororaa-xgl-demo-livec...--15:12:13-- http://getkororaa.com/releases/xgl/kororaa-xgl-demo-livec... => `kororaa-xgl-demo-livecd-0.1.iso' Resolving getkororaa.com... 208.97.141.150 Connecting to getkororaa.com|208.97.141.150|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 403 Forbidden 15:12:13 ERROR 403: Forbidden.
New Live CD showcasing XGL (FootNotes) Posted Mar 8, 2006 22:54 UTC (Wed) by elanthis (subscriber, #6227) [Link] Xglx is compatible with *all* currently developed applications.
The only "special" software for Xglx is Compiz, and you certainly don't need it. Any other OpenGL-based compositor will run on Xglx, and you don't need to run any compositor at all if you don't want to.
New Live CD showcasing XGL (FootNotes) Posted Mar 9, 2006 9:17 UTC (Thu) by micampe (guest, #4384) [Link]
While Xgl/Compiz and similar techniques provide some added value to the user interface, it is negligible compared to what a modern desktop environment can already do today. So, if you are concerned with Gnome and KDE resource usage, which gives some value in return, why are you interested in frivolous shiny improvements such as Xgl?
New Live CD showcasing XGL (FootNotes) Posted Mar 9, 2006 10:33 UTC (Thu) by drag (subscriber, #31333) [Link] XGLX is interesting from a technical viewpoint mostly. It's leading to the next generation of X graphics capabilities. Along with AIGLX.
It'll improve performance, improve accessability (for instance a usable zoom feature for those with bad eye sight), and allow for a more interactive desktop.
For instance you see how the windows 'snap' to the side of the window. That's a small thing, but is usefull as a visual input.
So will be things like animated buttons and more effective window handling stuff (aka Expose). That sort of thing.
Eventually when we get a fully 3d desktop running on a standardized api (opengl) it should improve portability of the xserver to other OSes (anything that supports Opengl + the egl extensions) and simplify driver development quite a bit. (one driver versus 2-3 right now)
Comparing what we have now versus XGL is like comparing 2.4 Linux to early 2.5 series kernels. It's interesting to some and will lead to more goodness later down the line, but it's not something that is going to be paticularly usefull for most people.
Supported GFX Card Posted Mar 8, 2006 21:53 UTC (Wed) by waby38 (guest, #36368) [Link]
This page show the supposed supported/unsupported GFX cards
Supported GFX Card Posted Mar 8, 2006 22:42 UTC (Wed) by zdzichu (subscriber, #17118) [Link] This list is scarce at least. Only two manufacturers listed? AIGLX's list is much more useful.
Supported GFX Card Posted Mar 9, 2006 13:07 UTC (Thu) by pharm (guest, #22305) [Link] Both just need the right openGL extensions in the drivers. I imagine that you'll see the union of the two lists on both sides within a few months.
New Live CD showcasing XGL (FootNotes) Posted Mar 10, 2006 0:59 UTC (Fri) by einstein (subscriber, #2052) [Link] Very nice demo - I tried it on 3 computers - it worked fine on the 2 machines with nvidia cards, but the ati-equipped machine had display problems and wouldn't come up - sucks to have an ati video card, I guess...
Great work, I've never seen gnome as snappy as it is with this CD.
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