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The next generation office suite

OpenOffice.org is a great package. It provides powerful capabilities in a number of areas - document editing, spreadsheets, presentations, etc. - and makes it possible for Linux users to interoperate with the large part of the world which is dependent on proprietary office applications. Much of the time, OpenOffice is the tool needed to enable Linux to replace a proprietary desktop system. It would be a hard tool to live without.
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That said, there is some truth in a comment recently posted by Jeff Waugh:

OpenOffice.org is not aggressively competitive with Microsoft Office - it's playing to match the feature matrix instead of leapfrogging and defining new ground to fight on. That is not a winning strategy, particularly when the stakes involve the future of Software Freedom in the hands of users around the world.

This statement is, perhaps, not entirely true; OpenOffice has, for example, been a big part of the push toward the Open Document Format. The open format push has most certainly shifted the battle, to the point that even Microsoft has had to respond. Beyond that, however, it is hard to point to a long list of new things which OpenOffice has brought to the office productivity arena. It is mostly a good copy of that other office application.

Critics of free software are fond of claims that the community is restricted to imitating developments done in the proprietary world. Free software, it is said, is not where innovation is done. To a great extent, OpenOffice could be said to validate that claim. It is not clear that this situation can change; OpenOffice is a large and intimidating code base which can be hard to contribute to, and the project's mission would seem to argue against the creation of surprising new features.

The community is not limited to OpenOffice, however. Jeff's posting points to a weblog entry by Marc Maurer, wherein he (by way of a large Flash file) demonstrates the long-anticipated collaborative editing addition to AbiWord. Authors, connected by the net, can simultaneously work on the same document and see each others' changes as they happen. Now every document can be written by committee, a process known to produce superior results.

Seriously, however, there are clear advantages to being able to work in this mode. Perhaps the tiresome process of sending document files around as attachments and trying to integrate changes from others could eventually fade away. And the world has shown, many times, that if people are given new ways to communicate and work together, they will do surprising things with that capability. So this addition to AbiWord (hopefully due to show up in the 2.6 release) is a welcome step forward.

Meanwhile, the KDE project recently held a "GUI and functionality design competition" for KOffice 2. the results of this competition have now been posted; they show that a number of smart people are thinking about where KOffice could go from here. The winning entry [PDF] from Martin Pfeiffer takes a long look at how people work with documents. His ideas, if realized, could take much of the tiresome clicking out of the editing process and make the task of putting together documents (especially large ones) much more straightforward and fun.

The fact that much effort in the free software community has gone into the replication of features available elsewhere is not particularly surprising. If one wants to build a user community for a software package, one is well advised to provide the capabilities that the target users have come to expect. In many areas, however, that goal has been met, and the time has come to move into new capabilities that users do not - yet - expect to find. By many accounts, office suites are one of those areas. We have the capabilities that most users need; it will be fun to watch as developers create features that users do not yet know that they need.


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The next generation office suite

Posted Mar 9, 2006 12:19 UTC (Thu) by pointwood (subscriber, #2814) [Link]

If you're interested in some information about what is going on in the OpenOffice world, I can recommend reading this interview: http://www.fosdem.org/2006/index/interviews/interviews_meeks

Among other things, it is interesting to note that they are switching to time-based releases. Another thing is that they have been working quite a bit on making in faster.

The next generation office suite

Posted Mar 10, 2006 10:57 UTC (Fri) by gypsumfantastic (subscriber, #31134) [Link]

Michael Meeks has been telling us for years that he's working on making it faster. Working on is not succeding, however.

Now, it seems, he prefers to blame the Kernel, GLibc, prelink, whoever for OOo's manifest shortcomings in the "huge bloated pile of crap" department.

Sometimes, you just have to accept that you can't polish a turd.

The next generation office suite

Posted Mar 14, 2006 22:35 UTC (Tue) by superstoned (subscriber, #33164) [Link]

he'd have to repackage Koffice, and call it OpenOffice to make it
faster ;-)

The next generation office suite

Posted Mar 16, 2006 9:51 UTC (Thu) by renox (guest, #23785) [Link]

>Sometimes, you just have to accept that you can't polish a turd.

Well it seems that there have been quite a lot of trial to optimise the linking part of application startup (not only from OOo guys), all rejected.
I doubt that those who tried to fix the problem did it 'just for fun', there is probably also a real problem in the linker, which doesn't scale well for big apps..

pdf and flash export

Posted Mar 9, 2006 14:56 UTC (Thu) by kh (subscriber, #19413) [Link]

I think the pdf and the Impress to flash export are fairly innovative, although pdf export is becoming fairly common and the flash export is so limited (e.g. no animations) as to be disappointing, but I am hopeful for this area in the future. (I have not yet looked at the newest release 2.02? - so no idea on any potential changes.) I am thankful for the Free software alternatives such as Abiword.

PDF export is old

Posted Mar 9, 2006 15:46 UTC (Thu) by man_ls (subscriber, #15091) [Link]

What? PDF export is anything but innovative -- Mac OS X has had the ability to print to PDF from every single program that supports printing since the first release in 2000. Of course the graphics engine uses PDF, but anyway. And Adobe has had similar products (Distiller) for even longer.

PDF export is old

Posted Mar 10, 2006 0:20 UTC (Fri) by njhurst (guest, #6022) [Link]

And latex has been doing pdf since before the begining of time. Indeed unix software in general prints to ps, and pdf is automatically an option with things like ps2pdf. MacOSX is a relatively late comer to this party.

PDF export is old

Posted Mar 10, 2006 7:14 UTC (Fri) by man_ls (subscriber, #15091) [Link]

In fact, Mac OS X is a newcomer to all parties; its antecessor NeXT had Display Postscript at its graphics core, so I guess exporting to PDF must have been easy (I haven't used it myself though).

HTML Troubles with this page

Posted Mar 9, 2006 14:57 UTC (Thu) by The_Flatlander (guest, #19245) [Link]

>> Now every document can be written by committee, a process known to produce superior results. <<

Oddly, my browser didn't render this line differently from the rest of the text. Seemingly, Firefox doesn't cope with <sarcasm> tags.

The Flatlander

HTML Troubles with this page

Posted Mar 10, 2006 3:21 UTC (Fri) by proski (subscriber, #104) [Link]

Konqueror 3.5.1, on the other hand, renders <sarcasm> just fine. Competition is good, seriosly!

Open text formats

Posted Mar 16, 2006 10:24 UTC (Thu) by forthy (guest, #1525) [Link]

It's nice to see OOo's format as published standard, but this all reminds me on "standards are good. Everybody should have one. There already is an OASIS document format, it's called DocBook. Why not adopt it (it's a reasonable powerful format), and maybe extend it where needed? And anyway: The OASIS standards are a bit lacking. For DocBook, it's completely ok to push the actual rendering out of the standard - it's more a data interchange format than a real document format (people render DocBook by converting the XML to LaTeX or by importing into Framemaker). But finally, if you write a document, you also might want to control how it looks like after being formatted.

The next generation office suite

Posted Mar 16, 2006 22:48 UTC (Thu) by klevin (guest, #36526) [Link]

It's not an office suite, but LyX has been my document creation tool of choice for quite a few years now. I recently handled some document related tasks at work that required using MS Office. Oy! Talk about figety, time wasting, details. I just needed to make some changes to an existing document that ended up changing page numbers and ended up spending several hours mucking about with the table of contents, header and what not. If I felt the need for heavy duty page layout micro control, I'd use something like PageMaker (or whatever's around these days). With LyX, I would only have had to muck about with the actuall content and let it worry about the rest.

LyX has worked wonderfully for my resume, articles and speech outlines. I tell it what type of content I'm working on at that point in the document and it all just works. Took a little getting used to, but has saved me countless hours. The only thing I wish it could do is export to Word for the occassional instance where the recipient won't take PDF output.

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