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Accelerated X flame wars! -- Maybe not (Free Software Magazine)
Free Software Magazine looks
at XGL and AIGLX. "When I first heard about these two competing
solutions my immediate response was "Oh no! Not ANOTHER flame war...". But
once I examined the two of them, I found that they're not as mutually
exclusive as it first seemed. To explain why I'll go through a summary of
how each works and the differences and similarities between them."
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Accelerated X flame wars! -- Maybe not (Free Software Magazine) Posted Feb 27, 2006 23:40 UTC (Mon) by bk (guest, #25617) [Link] It's difficult to take an author seriously when he/she uses the term "X Windows" when referring to X11.
Oh, please Posted Feb 27, 2006 23:52 UTC (Mon) by JoeBuck (subscriber, #2330) [Link] It's hard to take a commenter seriously when he/she dismisses a substantive article over an old terminology argument.Read it again, pretending that the author used the term that you (and, granted, the original authors of the X Window System) prefer.
Oh, please Posted Feb 28, 2006 0:25 UTC (Tue) by sbergman27 (guest, #10767) [Link] To be honest, I was thinking the same thing as bk.
FWIW, Jon Smirl is pretty critical of the article, as well:
http://osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=13805&offset=15...
Search for the subject "Poor web host, waste of time" the sixth post down on that page.
I found the article to be interesting, but it seems to have some problems.
Oh, please indeed Posted Feb 28, 2006 4:06 UTC (Tue) by Arker (guest, #14205) [Link] Terminology matters. Clear thought requires clear language, with the result that clearthinkers can be easily distinguished by looking at the language they use. When someone starts lecturing you about a subject, but messes up the terminology, that's a good, solid reason to take whatever he says with a grain of salt, because it shows sloppy thinking and/ or a pretension to greater knowledge than he has.
Accelerated X flame wars! -- Maybe not (Free Software Magazine) Posted Feb 28, 2006 0:54 UTC (Tue) by k8to (subscriber, #15413) [Link] Datapoint: I have met X developers content to call it X Windows. It's just a more convenient name.
Accelerated X flame wars! -- Maybe not (Free Software Magazine) Posted Feb 28, 2006 2:20 UTC (Tue) by dmarti (subscriber, #11625) [Link] Aren't you supposed to get $20 million to stop calling your project ".indows" anyway?
Accelerated X flame wars! -- Maybe not (Free Software Magazine) Posted Feb 28, 2006 8:37 UTC (Tue) by petegn (guest, #847) [Link] > Aren't you supposed to get $20 million to stop calling your project >".indows" anyway?
That applies to Lindows and even then we should have told gates to stuff his wedge where it causes hime the most pain , For imformation purposes
"Windows " are usually square or oblong things made from plastic and/or wood with the openings filled with a substance called Glass at best a semi solid therefore the trade mark if any can be applied is ownend by the bloke way back in history (probably a roman) who first invented the "Window " and certainly NOT by that egotistical twat in Redmond W(*****) billy goat Gates and anyone that thinks otherwise needs to go back to school and RE learn history ..
Pete .
What have the Romans ever done for us? Posted Mar 1, 2006 0:59 UTC (Wed) by xoddam (subscriber, #2322) [Link] > the bloke way back in history (probably a roman) who first invented> the "Window" Okay, the aqueduct, fine, sanitation, okay, and the roads go without saying. But *windows*?
What have the Romans ever done for us? Posted Mar 1, 2006 8:01 UTC (Wed) by Wol (guest, #4433) [Link] The TRADEMARK certainly ain't owned by a Roman. They own things like Fenestras ( which is why you can describe a linux pc as "defenestrated" :-)
I gather it was some Icelandic bloke who invented the Wind-Eye.
Cheers,
What have the Romans ever done for us? Posted Mar 1, 2006 23:04 UTC (Wed) by brouhaha (subscriber, #1698) [Link] Defenestrating a PC would be throwing it out of a window. Throwing Windows out of a computer is more properly termed "reverse defenestration".
Accelerated X flame wars! -- Maybe not (Free Software Magazine) Posted Feb 28, 2006 6:07 UTC (Tue) by AJWM (guest, #15888) [Link] Well, since I've been developing for X since X10 (gad, almost 20 years now), I use the term "X Windows" to refer to either X10 or X11, at least sometimes.
Although I probably tend to call it just "X" unless I'm referring to a specific library or an X server in particular.
Personally I don't take seriously anyone who makes a big deal out of it.
Accelerated X flame wars! -- Maybe not (Free Software Magazine) Posted Feb 28, 2006 14:22 UTC (Tue) by sbergman27 (guest, #10767) [Link] Not that I'm wanting to make a big deal out of it, but does anyone know what the big deal was about it? The XFree documentation did make a (slightly) big deal out of it, going out of the way to point out that one should not call it X Windows. Was there really an issue there, or was that just one documentation writer's quirkiness?
Personally, I like just 'X', and dislike 'X Windows' simply because it sounds a bit "me too" by association.
Accelerated X flame wars! -- Maybe not (Free Software Magazine) Posted Mar 2, 2006 16:23 UTC (Thu) by jschrod (subscriber, #1646) [Link] No, it's difficult to take you seriously if that's your only gripe about the article.
Please note: I develop for X since X10 came out, more than 20 years ago, in 1985. I have X core developers under my personal friends. They don't have the issues that you seem to have. Please stop beating that bush on LWN, this is not /..
So, do you have technical critic on the article? Post them, but not that drivel.
Joachim
Accelerated X flame wars! -- Maybe not (Free Software Magazine) Posted Feb 28, 2006 4:50 UTC (Tue) by saber850 (guest, #36174) [Link] Funny, when I first heard about each of these solutions my immediate response was "Oh Yes!". When I heard about some type of competition between the two my reponse was a resounding "OH YES!".It's about time our X server got some hardware-induced (read: free) performance upgrades. And a little competition will only serve to squeeze the most out of that hardware. Some of my aging boxes w/ agreeable video cards can use a free boost.
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