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VMware cuts VMware Server price to zero (NewsForge)

NewsForge reports that VMware is planning on releasing a free server. "Raghu Raghuram, VMware's vice president of datacenter and desktop platform products, said that the product would be "an advancement over GSX," VMware's current entry-level server virtualization product, and that VMware would begin directing new customers to VMware Server. Though the release is free as in beer, the product is not being released under an open source license. However, Raghuram said that VMware Server will not offer the advanced management tools found in VMware ESX Server. "It does not have all the capability and advanced functionality ... that you'd need for large-scale rollouts.""

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VMware cuts VMware Server price to zero (NewsForge)

Posted Feb 6, 2006 18:22 UTC (Mon) by allesfresser (guest, #216) [Link] (6 responses)

I noticed that the new VMware Server beta requires PAM to operate. Most people probably won't be bothered by this, but Slackware users not running with Dropline Gnome will be out of luck. VMware Workstation 5.5.1 doesn't require PAM, but whether it will continue as a product when the Server version is available at no cost is anyone's guess...

VMware cuts VMware Server price to zero (NewsForge)

Posted Feb 6, 2006 18:50 UTC (Mon) by miah (guest, #639) [Link] (3 responses)

VMware has allways had a really restrictive list of "Host OS's" that are supported, I can't remember ever seeing slackware on that list. So I'm sure as far as they are concerned it is a non-issue. I don't understand how they go on and on about ESX being a superiour product, GSX can run 5x the amount of guest OS's (I mean supported linux distros, *BSD's, Windows, etc). Last I checked, QEMU, and XEN were still free..

VMware cuts VMware Server price to zero (NewsForge)

Posted Feb 6, 2006 20:28 UTC (Mon) by allesfresser (guest, #216) [Link] (2 responses)

Oh, I'm sure they're not going to care about supporting Slackware. :-) But for the moment VMware Workstation (5.5.1) still runs just fine on Slackware 10.2+ once you create SysV init directories for it to use. And I'm running kernel.org vanilla 2.6.14.6, so it's fairly current kernelwise.

VMware cuts VMware Server price to zero (NewsForge)

Posted Feb 7, 2006 14:30 UTC (Tue) by zooko (guest, #2589) [Link]

I don't know about slackware, but vmware inc. does a good job of making their software portable to various Linux distributions. For proprietary, commercial software that is this complex and performance-intensive, you're probably never going see a more well-integrated, better-supported product than vmware.

VMware cuts VMware Server price to zero (NewsForge)

Posted Feb 9, 2006 16:07 UTC (Thu) by miah (guest, #639) [Link]

Workstation, ESX, and GSX (Vmware Server) are all totally different products capable of different things. To me, its kind of a mess, they should all support the same basic features and operating systems. Though thats not how it works, there are features in GSX that I would love to have in ESX, and ESX is supposed to be the 'server class' product. I personally run both at work, and while ESX is definitely faster, I can do *more* with GSX, which is really frustrating. Especially when you look at cost differences =)

Sure, Workstation does run on just about every Linux distro, but you'll find that GSX may not, and ESX provides its own.

VMware cuts VMware Server price to zero (NewsForge)

Posted Sep 1, 2006 15:58 UTC (Fri) by Nixdude (guest, #40277) [Link] (1 responses)

Yep, Well this is a common misconception about a lot of "pam" enabled products...most require no pam, and do not actually require pam libraries be there to run...vmware server is no exception. You do not need pam to run vmware server on slackware, it will fall back and auth on the shadow system due to the way the authentication on slackware linux is designed. Trust me it works. Who wants gnome on the server anyway...thats for workstations and pam is not something a slackware admin wants to install.

Just do this to install vmware server on slack...I have done it on 10.0 and 10.1...have not attempted 10.2 yet...I most recently used vmware 1.0.1 server.

First make vmware installer think pam is there...this is the hard part...it lets the installer put install some pam files...which are never used.
mkdir /etc/pam.d

That should do it...look mom, no gnome required on my server machine...thats a relief :)

Then make sysvinit happy (if you have not already for something else)

mkdir /etc/rc.d/init.d
mkdir /etc/rc.d/rc0.d
mkdir /etc/rc.d/rc1.d
mkdir /etc/rc.d/rc2.d
mkdir /etc/rc.d/rc3.d
mkdir /etc/rc.d/rc4.d
mkdir /etc/rc.d/rc5.d
mkdir /etc/rc.d/rc6.d

Ok you are good to go...install vmware server, and then run the console from whatever type of workstation you might use (windows, linux, whatever).

Remember you heard it from nixdude...pam is for cooking.

FYI: I am running 2 netware 4.10 servers on top of slackware in a production environment due to some of our old programs needing it...netware runs for months on top of vmware just like they did stand alone...only faster due to me being able to use more modern raid controllers in linux. I used to use vmware workstation, but that was a pain...now its a nice clean server with no graphical frontend required. Thanks vmware :).

VMware cuts VMware Server price to zero (NewsForge)

Posted Sep 1, 2006 16:15 UTC (Fri) by Nixdude (guest, #40277) [Link]

Probably obvious to you by now, but workstation is still useful for developers and the like. It runs as a graphical app on your workstation (or thats how its intended to run). vmware server on the other hand runs in the background as a quiet headless task emulating whatever kinda server you want, unless you connect to it via the vmware server console you might even forget its there...vmware server is much better than workstation in a true server environment, workstation is much better than server in a graphical workstation use environment.


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