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Linux in Italian schools - five months laterLinux in Italian schools - five months laterPosted Feb 2, 2006 7:16 UTC (Thu) by vblum (subscriber, #1151)Parent article: Linux in Italian schools - five months later
Those printer setup woes are in essence solved&gone in other distributions, e.g. SUSE's YaST. I was not aware that the problem ("naked" CUPS admin tools) still existed elsewhere. How is this handled in Ububtu?
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Linux in Italian schools - five months later Posted Feb 2, 2006 15:50 UTC (Thu) by kleptog (subscriber, #1183) [Link] One thing I havn't yet worked out is: Given this current world where every PCI and USB device identifies itself, why do I have to specify the driver? Why isn't when you plug in your USB printer it tells you which PPD file to use?
Maybe it's the case of my USB file being out of date, but it would be nice...
Linux in Italian schools - five months later Posted Feb 2, 2006 17:14 UTC (Thu) by carcassonne (guest, #31569) [Link] Since last year (at least), SuSE 9.3's YaST suggests a PPD file. I tried it with a networked printer and a USB printer and in both cases the suggested PPD was the right one. What happens when the printer is out on the market since last Monday ? I don't know.
It's important to choose a 'good enough' distro to show Linux to people. As developers and technicians were hear buzzwords flying. Like 'Ubuntu' and 'Kubuntu' for instance.
- Did you get your NTP client working ?
- Just Excellent ! I just had to create this config file and bootscript...
This of course is not good (and certainly not factual regarding 'K/Ubuntu) since I haven"t tried it).
A good way to make people stick with Windows ? Introduce them to Linux using Slackware.
I think a highly configurable-user-firendly updated distro should be used for this purpose, which is not necessarily the latest developer's buzzwords.
Linux in Italian schools - five months later Posted Feb 2, 2006 17:32 UTC (Thu) by musicon (subscriber, #4739) [Link] Now, let me preface this by saying I'm not a Linux expert by any means. I've played around off an on since '94, and am comfortable with man and editing /etc as needed. But my day-to-day work and home systems are XP. On my Ubuntu system (either Breezy or Dapper), I have _yet_ been able to print to an SMB printer. And (at work), since all queues are hosted on W2K servers, and no one has local printers, it means I print from my XP system. I've had other strange SMB authentication issues as well, such as one time being able to access SMB shares, and the next receiving the very helpful GNOME message "The folder contents could not be displayed." This is apparently a quirk in Ubuntu - I can reliably mount SMB shares using the exact same commands on other systems, but Ubuntu displays (again very helpful) "SMB connection failed". man is no help. Googling is no help. It's just broken, and I work around it, hoping that each new update will fix it.
Linux printing Posted Feb 7, 2006 19:19 UTC (Tue) by roelofs (subscriber, #2599) [Link] On my Ubuntu system (either Breezy or Dapper), I have _yet_ been able to print to an SMB printer. And (at work), since all queues are hosted on W2K servers, and no one has local printers, it means I print from my XP system.Do none of these printers have network ports? Generally speaking, all you need is an IP address and you're set (insofar as most work printers have PostScript engines in them and speak "lpd"). That W2K server is just a nicety for the Windows folks. Greg
Linux printing Posted Feb 9, 2006 8:49 UTC (Thu) by Wol (guest, #4433) [Link] If it's like mine, it has a USB port ... mind you, I might be blaming ZA for my inability to print from my laptop...
Cheers,
Linux in Italian schools - five months later Posted Feb 2, 2006 19:12 UTC (Thu) by kh (subscriber, #19413) [Link] I fight printing issues for end users with Ubuntu - but not exactly setup issues. Setup is easy, it's things like duplexing, choosing paper types, choosing trays (e.g. for letterhead, second sheets, plain - let me send a job to tray 3), orientation (landscape setting anyone?), envelopes, quality settings and sizes for photos that frustate the end users I work with.
Linux in Italian schools - five months later Posted Feb 2, 2006 22:52 UTC (Thu) by evgeny (subscriber, #774) [Link] > Setup is easy, it's things like duplexing, choosing paper types, choosing trays (e.g. for letterhead, second sheets, plain - let me send a job to tray 3), orientation (landscape setting anyone?), envelopes, quality settings and sizes for photos that frustate the end users I work with.
Erh? The issues you mention mean you have NOT setup CUPS properly (wrong PPD or like). Otherwise, all these options would have appeared in the printing dialog of any CUPS-aware application (and in most legacy apps simply replace lpr with e.g. gtklp; for a desktop box it's probably safe even to softlink lpr to gtklp).
Linux in Italian schools - five months later Posted Feb 3, 2006 2:54 UTC (Fri) by cortana (subscriber, #24596) [Link] Cool trick. If you are using KDE, you can do the same thing with kprinter.
On a Debian (or ~-derived) system you can move lpr out of the way gracefully like so:
dpkg-divert --local --rename --add /usr/bin/lpr
You can then create a symlink at /usr/bin/lpr that dpkg knows not to overwrite, the next time the package containing lpr is upgraded.
Linux in Italian schools - five months later Posted Feb 13, 2006 12:50 UTC (Mon) by daenzer (subscriber, #7050) [Link] Or just install cupsys-bsd?
Linux in Italian schools - five months later Posted Feb 9, 2006 8:47 UTC (Thu) by Wol (guest, #4433) [Link] I've just updated SuSE to v10. My HP LaserJet is about 3 years old. CUPS recognises but refuses to configure it ...
My previous experience with CUPS (SuSE 8, I think), was even worse. Having told it NOT to scan the network, it went ahead and did so anyway - I ended up using the Big Red Switch to stop it, iirc. And I had great difficulty forcing the system to install old-fashioned lpd so I could actually get a working print setup ...
Cheers,
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